R1: Carlton v PTA (Pre match discussion - team pg12)

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:34 pm

BigBlueWave wrote:

lily of laguna wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

Hoping against hope that the MC will make smart brave decisions this year. No guts ... no glory!

Go Blues!

Great idea BBW, got any suggestions even just for this week???

What's your team sheet look like?

I had no idea you were waiting.

Buckley Jamison Walker
Touhy Watson Yarran
Everitt McLean Simpson
Kreuzer Henderson Thomas
Menzel Waite Garlett

R: Warnock Murphy Gibbs

I: Curnow Bell Robinson Cripps(Sub)

Appologies: Casboult, Graham, Scotland, Armfield

I suspect the MC will try blokes like Ellard (had plenty of chances), and Bootsma (no comment). Not totally against Ellard ... I just think there are too many in front of him. More than likely Scotland will play ... fair enough.

Isn't Gibbs injured? Hand? Will he be ready?

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

camelboy wrote:

Anyone know if there is a venue close-ish to Etihad which will show the Grand Prix?

I'm assuming I'll be able to get a seat with my 11 game home membership, even though I won't start heading to the ground until after the GP???

Albert Park is close

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

Blue Sombrero wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

lily of laguna wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

Hoping against hope that the MC will make smart brave decisions this year. No guts ... no glory!

Go Blues!

Great idea BBW, got any suggestions even just for this week???

What's your team sheet look like?

I had no idea you were waiting.

Buckley Jamison Walker
Touhy Watson Yarran
Everitt McLean Simpson
Kreuzer Henderson Thomas
Menzel Waite Garlett

R: Warnock Murphy Gibbs

I: Curnow Bell Robinson Cripps(Sub)

Appologies: Casboult, Graham, Scotland, Armfield

I suspect the MC will try blokes like Ellard (had plenty of chances), and Bootsma (no comment). Not totally against Ellard ... I just think there are too many in front of him. More than likely Scotland will play ... fair enough.

Isn't Gibbs injured? Hand? Will he be ready?

If his new contract is worthwhile, his hand might have been put through a rigorous fitness test. #badjokeday

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17219

Blue Sombrero wrote:

Isn't Gibbs injured? Hand? Will he be ready?

Ken Hands will not play. Gibbs still a good chance.

camel · **Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:49 pm

King Kenny wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Anyone know if there is a venue close-ish to Etihad which will show the Grand Prix?

I'm assuming I'll be able to get a seat with my 11 game home membership, even though I won't start heading to the ground until after the GP???

Albert Park is close

Haha, quite, but I'd prefer to watch the race in front of a TV rather than general admission at the track.

lily of laguna · **Joined:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:37 pm **Posts:** 417

aramari wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

Hmmm .. I was talking about the MC last year ... not me. I will give you an example of not being smart ... Selecting Bootsma again. Brave selection means taking a few risks ... I saw little of that last year.

I think playing Watson, Buckley, Menzel and Cripps in the first game of the year is risk taking. I would be very pleased to see this type of initiative from them. Its just ... I haven't seen much of it.

Also ... I would like to get Armfield into that side ... it looks a little bit slow. Hopefully the MC will surprise.

We can't just depend on the tactics of Dr Strangelove you know! :wink:

Selecting Bootsma would be brave.

Your team isn't at all radical or risky. Looks alright.

Too true aramari.... BBW's selections based on preseason form and what we know of injuries is a good and dare I say it fairly obvious side which I can see the MC going with.

Without being present at MC it is very hard to know the justifications for selections, and no-one is going to be truthful and say something like "we just wanted to give them 1 last run at it" etc.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:31 pm

camelboy wrote:

King Kenny wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Anyone know if there is a venue close-ish to Etihad which will show the Grand Prix?

I'm assuming I'll be able to get a seat with my 11 game home membership, even though I won't start heading to the ground until after the GP???

Albert Park is close

Haha, quite, but I'd prefer to watch the race in front of a TV rather than general admission at the track.

And with live timing on an iPad in front of you as well

Blues Clues · **Joined:** Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:01 pm **Posts:** 2099

club29 wrote:

Rocky Henderson wrote:

Kruzuer is like having an extra link in the chain. Unlike most rucks he can handball in the middle.
Henderson HF and Casboult FF with Waite in the pocket can work well. If the big Boults endurance and kicking have improved he'll be a starter. One of the best contested marks in the comp IMO and a good get out of Jail option.

Get out of jail option comes at massive costs. Can't see us winning too many with Big Levi in the team. Would take a massive improvement from him and big tweak in the way we set up defensively to cover him. From there he would have to kick straight at the big sticks.

+1, he was shocking in that Sydney final last year. Let him earn his place, his pre-season form doesn't justify it, that's for sure.

A fit Waite and Hendo will be fine with the two rucks, Menz, Yazz, Garlett, Everitt and the mids chipping in for a few.

BigBlueWave · **Joined:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:45 pm **Posts:** 3073

aramari wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

Hmmm .. I was talking about the MC last year ... not me. I will give you an example of not being smart ... Selecting Bootsma again. Brave selection means taking a few risks ... I saw little of that last year.

I think playing Watson, Buckley, Menzel and Cripps in the first game of the year is risk taking. I would be very pleased to see this type of initiative from them. Its just ... I haven't seen much of it.

Also ... I would like to get Armfield into that side ... it looks a little bit slow. Hopefully the MC will surprise.

We can't just depend on the tactics of Dr Strangelove you know! :wink:

Selecting Bootsma would be brave.

Your team isn't at all radical or risky. Looks alright.

Never said my team was radical ... its all relative. I was bagging selections by the MC last year in that they made one dumb decision after another and refused to take risks.

Picking Bootsma would be dumb... nothing to do with being brave. The MC had a lot to answer for last year ... But there is a clean start each year for everyone ...

Go Bluebaggers.

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:11 pm

..2 key defenders and 2 key forwards, and 2 rucks.. ..levi will get a gig if hendo is forced back, or if a ruck doesn't get up.. ..otherwise he is behind.. ..as for krooz marking better in his fort two years, having a real forward in fev taking the heat helped him rest forward and be a threat, likewise now when he plays as a resting ruck with real kpf up there he is good, last year he had his chances Bu was inaccurate..

Jez1966 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:42 pm **Posts:** 2833

Patrick Keane's twitter

Round One's potential debutants
Coll - T.Langdon
GC Suns - S.Lemmens, C Cameron, J.Martin
Carl - P.Cripps, N.Holman
Port - T.Clurey, J.Impey

HTP · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm **Posts:** 3366

CARLTON

B Lachie Henderson, Matthew Watson, Zach Tuohy
HB Kade Simpson, Michael Jamison, Andrew Walker
C Dale Thomas, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
HF Chris Yarran, Jarrad Waite, Jeff Garlett
F Mitch Robinson, Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs
FOL Robert Warnock, Tom Bell, Brock McLean
I/C Patrick Cripps, Andrejs Everitt, Nick Holman, Andrew McInnes, Kane Lucas, Troy Menzel, David Ellard (Three to be omitted)

HTP · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm **Posts:** 3366

Versus:

B Jackson Trengove, Jack Hombsch, Matthew Broadbent
HB Jasper Pittard, Tom Jonas, Tom Clurey
C Jared Polec, Brad Ebert, Kane Cornes
HF Angus Monfries, Justin Westhoff, Hamish Hartlett
F John Butcher, Jay Schulz, Robbie Gray
FOL Matthew Lobbe, Travis Boak, Chad Wingard
I/C Matt White, Dom Cassisi, Ollie Wines, Cam O'Shea, Jarman Impey, Brent Renouf, Sam Colquhoun (Three to be omitted)

Jez1966 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:42 pm **Posts:** 2833

Sunday, March 16

Carlton v Port Adelaide

Etihad Stadium, 7.40pm AEDT

CARLTON

New: Dale Thomas (Collingwood), Patrick Cripps (East Fremantle), Nick Holman (Murray Bushrangers), Andrejs Everitt (Sydney Swans)

PORT ADELAIDE

New: Tom Clurey (Murray Bushrangers), Jarman Impey (Murray Bushrangers), Jared Polec (Brisbane Lions), Matt White (Richmond)

HTP · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm **Posts:** 3366

Jeez, tough to pick the bench. Seems a lot of talls for Everitt to make it to the final team.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

HTP wrote:

CARLTON

B Lachie Henderson, Matthew Watson, Zach Tuohy
HB Kade Simpson, Michael Jamison, Andrew Walker
C Dale Thomas, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
HF Chris Yarran, Jarrad Waite, Jeff Garlett
F Mitch Robinson, Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs
FOL Robert Warnock, Tom Bell, Brock McLean
I/C Patrick Cripps, Andrejs Everitt, Nick Holman, Andrew McInnes, Kane Lucas, Troy Menzel, David Ellard (Three to be omitted)

Looks about right. Missing Judd and Carrots from best 22 and maybe Scotland?

My guess is Holman (nice to see him considered) McInnes and Lucas to miss out. Cripps to debut as sub.

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

Holman, that's my boy! (He will be a Mick special by years end)

Like the balance if Hendo plays forward.

Bell and McLean need to produce.

Can see Ellard, Everitt and Menzel as the 3 interchange, sub probably Cripps.

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

No Cobalt ?

Drewgirl · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:57 pm **Posts:** 4768

Bench you picked looks spot on Kenny. Hopefully anyway..

fmurphy30 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:02 pm **Posts:** 1649

Dylan Buckley a bit stiff after a fair pre-season. I thought he deserved a start.

Not overly surprised with Levi/Boots/Rowe out of favour.

Holman preferred to Graham interesting too. Probably academic but interesting nonetheless.

Is Scotland not fit or just no long part of the plans unless injuries hit?

R1: Carlton v PTA (Pre match discussion - team pg12)

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