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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:12 pm 
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Great! The club virtually recognised it was a stuff up a few years back...nice to have it rectified and become the first step - albeit a small one in making the Carlton Football Club far more democratic.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:30 pm 
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I will try to attend. Would like to ask how Tiges could pay of debt and post larger profits. Also why we are so bad at selling "small" memberships 1,2,3 game membership which make all the difference why we are behind certain clubs. These inflated numbers are an important tool for media buzz and create a large pool to target for upgrades, merchandise, and especially sponsors.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:37 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Great! The club virtually recognised it was a stuff up a few years back...nice to have it rectified and become the first step - albeit a small one in making the Carlton Football Club far more democratic.


Yep, bit of a shame it's taken so long to get there, but hopefully it will be sorted soon. :beer:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:36 pm 
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You need to look at the tigers spending on wages and the footy department before you can make a proper assessment I reckon. Its well know we have prioritised spending on the footy department in the last few years rather than paying down debt.


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How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


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Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.

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How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?



Which must have some members asking why they would bother renewing.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:48 am 
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AGM is being streamed online.
www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-12-16/wa ... ve-tonight


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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.


?

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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.


Here we go ..................

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:49 pm 
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Bluey44 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.


Here we go ..................

:roll:


Great comeback. If you disagree, come up with something other than a pathetic eye roll. This forum is for discussion.
We flicked a bloke who was good enough to pick up an AFL senior job and not only did we pay him out, we paid additionally to get in lesser quality.
If I'm wrong, debate the point. If you're not capable, why bother responding?

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Blue Vain wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.


Here we go ..................

:roll:


Great comeback. If you disagree, come up with something other than a pathetic eye roll. This forum is for discussion.
We flicked a bloke who was good enough to pick up an AFL senior job and not only did we pay him out, we paid additionally to get in lesser quality.
If I'm wrong, debate the point. If you're not capable, why bother responding?


What are you talking about?
I'm confused.

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Blue Vain wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
How much money has been wasted paying out coaching related contracts ?


What's worse, we paid out quality to get in lesser quality.


Here we go ..................

:roll:


Great comeback. If you disagree, come up with something other than a pathetic eye roll. This forum is for discussion.
We flicked a bloke who was good enough to pick up an AFL senior job and not only did we pay him out, we paid additionally to get in lesser quality.
If I'm wrong, debate the point. If you're not capable, why bother responding?


I've seen the way you debate in the Mick Malthouse threads, and it's like a broken record.

Coaches work in teams, they need context, they need to be a good fit, they need to be effective as a unit, and most of all they need to be able to work effectively with the boss.
Getting the right head coach is more important than assistants - without the right leadership the assistants could be the best in the business and it wouldn't matter.
Mick is the head coach, so Mick picks the team around him. As far as I'm aware, any comments on here about why Richo is not here anymore (I assume you mean Richo, though your original post was a bit vague on that point) are purely conjecture, so in the absence of fact we have to assume that Mick is responsible for picking his team and the buck for the Richo decision stops with Mick. (Although Richo may have left of his own choice anyway)

I don't have a PHD in effective coaching personnel structures, but to me it seems relatively plain that in a lot of modern sports (including AFL) it is a relatively common and acceptable practice (if not the norm) for head coaches to pick their coaching panels.

So if you want to take the CFC board to task for poor contract coordination between the Head Coach decision and the assistant coach decision that has cost us unecessary expense, then go ahead.

But implying that the club admin is stupid for letting Richo go & paying him out just because he has landed a head coaching job makes no sense, given that Laidley has coached finals footy at head coach level, and has seemingly done a respectable round of assistant jobs as well. What makes Richo better except for the "I told you so!/Negative Nelly argument?
Let alone the fact that Osborne is untried and could be the best coach ever.

If you are referring to last years coaching appointments (ie. Mick bringing in Wiley), then I think the timing of that complaint probably fitted better with the previous AGM(?) (I could be wrong)

So either way I'm not sure how the admin or the board are directly at fault for making a bad talent judgement on Richo vs. his replacements (... which I think is an incorrect assertion anyway). The logical argument from your line of reasoning, then, is that Mick doesn't know a good assistant coach when he sees one, and the club admin have wasted money and good talent because of listening to Mick. And to be honest I'm getting a bit tired of the "Mick is no good" vibes around here.

Hence the eye roll.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:51 pm 
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What year is it?

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Richard Newton taps out.


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Sticks' got the blue rinse set in the palm of his hand :lol:


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Sticks' got the blue rinse set in the palm of his hand :lol:

yes!!! they become his attack dog!!!

wait till joe from the unoffcial selectors committee asks a question they will howl him down as they knit those scarves that cover ten seats along...

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Now why would they cut of the stream right before questions from the floor ? :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:38 pm 
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According to CFC Twitter, a member suggested we erect a statue of Sticks at Visy Park.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:47 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
According to CFC Twitter, a member suggested we erect a statue of Sticks at Visy Park.

yes thats joe from unofficial selectors.

i think he has heat stroke

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