Prender and Bannister should be the others.

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I know we have to delist a certain number of players but sad to see hard workers like Diggers and Johnson go(Not that I disagree with the decision). Good luck for the future boys.

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Prender, Bannister and Wiggins should all be moved on.

If Kouta is placed on the veterans list rather than the primary list as now, we can use an extra selection. Not sure if this reduces TPP though.

There is no limit to my sobbing, my distress: for while Prenda stays with our club, our club stands still.

Run athletic Prenda, run away quick!

How can it be that you can run but our club cannot move when they call you a leader?

Set the sufferers free, let them take their hands away from their eyes when you attempt to kick.

Run athletic Prenda run. Or maybe row? Yes, you would make a fine rower. Go row Prenda, gently down the stream, away from Carlton, away, away.

Away.

Considering depth is one of our many problems, I would have thought Johnson and Digby might have been handy if only as backup for our senior list.

With injury and suspensions this season, it was obvious we had nothing in reserve to take the places in the midfield and talls areas...

As for Norman, another cancer has just been removed

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yep agree 100% and you can add sporn who has done jackall so far to that list as well. longmuir and chambers both deserve the flick although i imagine they remain under contract. these 2 players are slimply wasting our time and realistically will not be part of the next Carlton premiership side. WTF was pagan and co thinking when they re-signed Livo earlier in the year??? Davies should stay, has bucketloads of talent, but he is skating on thin ice and needs an absolute rocket up his ass for next year otherwise its bye bye to him too.

If we add those in the abovementioned post plus Aporn that leaves us with another 4 delistings.

So out the door is: Campo, Clarke, Bowyer, Prenda, Norman, Digby, Johnson, Wiggins, Sporn, Prendergast and Bannister. I suspect Lappo will stay. 11 in all

in the door is: Saddington, picks 1,4,20,36,68, 84? PSD picks 1 plus second round. And promote Setanta O'hailpin and Jess Smith. again 11 players.

Don't want to jump the gun but i would say next year we can part with Livingston, Chambers, Longmuir, Davies, possibly Houlihan and one of Deluca or Bryan (there isn't room in the team for both since we need a QUALITY ruckman). Plus the expected retirement of Kouta. That would leave 7 more spaces free to which those in the SuperDraft can be added.

This may seem abit extreme but I just feel we need to clean out all the dead wood if we are to truly stick by this youth policy.

At the start of 2007 that would mean the only remaining present players would be:

Betts
Walker
Russell
Scotland
Mcgrath
Stevens
Fevola
Whitnall
Lappin
Waite
Fisher
Bentick
Simpson
O'hailpin
J Smith
French
Bryan/Deluca
Thornton
Teague
Raso
Hartlett
Blackwell

Thoughts????

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Add Aisake and Batson to that list as well.

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Way i read it on the Delists

Plemming - Prob just didnt do enuff to get promoted dont know enuff about him

Becker - Similar maybe just hasnt shown enuff

Johnson - Been replaced by Bentick they where never played in team together and with Benticks last 5 games he secured that spot

Morrell - may have been 50:50 in comes Saddington Morrell goes on the belief a fit Saddington will do a better job than Morrell

Norman - flower to many dramas whenever was in news was always for some issue in rent / alcohol / Drugs - flower gone

Campo - should be gone as expected

No real suprise taking into consideration the amount footy those lads played in the seconds this year. All three are very good VFL level players.
I think there are are couple who should be shown the before Diggers.

Probably waiting to see what happens with Campo and Lappin.

Maybe we'll keepng a couple of others guys who garenntee us at least 2 delisting next year.

Both Bannister and Wiggo are borderline.

I want to keep Sporn for one more year and if he goes before a Wiggins, Bannister or Prendergast I'll crack it.

What has Smith done to be deserve to be added to the senior list? I haven't seen much of him.

How many bottom four finishes will we have with that list?
Even if we add Murphy, Clark, Lucy, pick 36, etc this year and possibly Thorp, Sheldon, Selwood (PPs hopefully stay) and Sellar in the 2006 superdraft.We'll still be a great chance for the spoon in 2007 if we chop all the players with senior experience.

Maybe if we are considering a stock up in the 2006 super draft perhaps we are wanting to keep a few duds on the list for who will be out of contract and easily de-listable next year, rather than have a bunch of late picks in an ordinary draft who will be stuck with for 2 years?

You have to drop some players.That is part of the business.The jist of the thread seems to be that Norman deserved his sacking whilst Johnno and Diggers were a bit on the stiff side.I agree

What cost Johnno in the end is the emergence of Bentick an in and under player who lacks a bit of toe and Blackwell who I rate highly and is a similar player.The fact that Johnno has been delisted along with Becker shows that Pagan rates Blackers highly as well.And then there is Murphy assuming he is the first picked in the draft.Johnno is a fine player.I hope he gets another opportunity at a third club although this event is unlikely.


Morrell is the stiffest.In the round 21 game against the scum he kicked 3goals 4 behinds.Would he have played next year if he kicked 7 straight that day.Diggers didnt have a good year But I would have kept him in preference to others(Bannister,Wiggins for starters)what if Fevola,Whitnall,Fisher or Waite go down with injury.Perhaps Diggers could have been kept as insurance for this.

Wherever he goes he will kicked 3 figures,injury aside and not at AFL level.


I guess I wont see Karl Norman at the Meredith Music Festival because on the ticket it says no flower.At 79 he was worth the risk.You win some you lose some.

Thanks Digby, Brett and Karl. All played some decent footy at some stage for the club.

I thought there'd be more, but we need to save someone for next season. There's no point loading up on kids in this draft.

Keep in mind just because we have first pick in the PSD doesnt mean we're going to utilise it. The club may be aware that no one of value will be nominating.

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Anyone likely to want to take over the SEN Locker room from Digby & Harford?

That's my theory as well.If we draft duds with pick no.1000 then we'll be stuck with them for 2 years, unlike a Davies, Sporn and Livo who can be chopped if they don't step up.

There might be a better player available at pick 2 in the PSD if only a handfull of clubs can afford to enter.

Thanks for the memories fellas. Karl you might want to watch some replays of your games if you can't remember any.

I suppose the writing was on the wall for these players. But one thing has me totally fuming..... surely that paragraph about no further delistings is not right.

How could Diggers, Jonno and Karl go before Wiggins. Please some one explain to me how Wiggins can be on the list? He has played 63 games and can't even crack it past 8 possesions a game as an average. Tottaly useless footballer. I agree Prenda and Bannister are also lucky to be on the list but atleast they can PERFORM at times.... unlike Wiggins the stupid confussed person that think's he's an AFL footballer.

http://www.footywire.com/fw/web/ft_play ... er?pid=415

maybe if we hadn't drafted Karl, then Angwin wouldn't have had a playmate and would still be at the club.

that said, i'm glad we drafted karl, helped us get rid of LA

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With the mid season furore over Bannister and the fact that he didn't play any senior footy in the last half of the season (when we needed something like him), I thought Bannister was toast. I still can't see how he survived.
We had better have some more changes or we won't be drafting very much. And low picks seem to be the only good ones we seem to make.

Beowulf, what was the mid season furore over Bannister ?