If you need two cars in the family and have a Porsche, it's a no brainer to trade it for a Honda SUV and a Ute. That's what we never seem to do.

Isn't that why we traded away the world for Judd? how has that worked.

You're not wrong there. We're not in the same category by choice



Hardness?
We average more contested possessions, contested marks, one percenters than Geelong and we smash them in clearances. Its our uncontested possessions that kill us.
Now that is where Chapman specialises. The trouble is, its our gamestyle that doesnt endear itself to uncontested possessions. Bringing in a 32 year old wont change that. As for not having young guys crying to step up, bringing in old blokes to take their place on the list doesnt help. Use that spot on a young draftee.
Graham was killing it in the VFL this season and should have received more games. He shouldnt have to battle a Paul Chapman for a spot in the side.The young bloke should always get preference if he's showing enough.

It's just junior synbad.

..rubbish.. ..this year DT left them, not their choice.. ..Shaw went a bit off the rails, not their choice.. .... ..they have benefited, but by default.. ..last year they pushed out dawes, lynch as a cheap alternative a big bust.. ..dawes played his role [kpf, not fwd/ruck that bucks tried to make him], but was also cheap cash and provided good leadership and helped keep the team smooth, there's more to him leaving than just his onfield role.. ..ripple effect saw ruffled feathers this season.. ..yes they got grundy i think with that pick [actually dee's 2nd rounder, not a 1st round], but could have used their first rounder on him just the same just a few picks earlier..



..and fringe players, aren't the sort to be gnashing teeth over when you miss out, after getting a genuinely topline player to come over.. ..and it's more like 1 year, he played most games last year..

..but if you'd rather pay overs for fringe players instead of an AA player, that's your perogative..

Hang on.

You are clearly a troll or one of MM's kids.

You say the club is holding MM back with it's trades and structure and we are basically doomed because Mick has no clay to work with. Ok, that's fine, that's an opinion many hold.

But then you say " we should have tanked and swapped Yazz and Pick 6 for Boyd"

Sorry, but who was in the coaches box? Mick flower Malthouse that's who. Was he being forced to win games????? YES

You go on to say that getting Daisy is a risk and letting Betts go is a mistake. HELLO!!!! Daisy is here because MM want's him. Betts is gone because we are not prepared to pay the ridiculous money that Adelaide is.

Listen, if you want to have fun as a troll OR you are Christie you still need to get your story straight.

Essendon* cheated, simple as that

Benefit by default... two years running, how novel, might try that sometime.

Hate to say this, but the pies are killing it this year.

They will have three first round picks to with the three they had last year. That's 6 quality players in two years to compliment the list they have.

In two years, they have rebuilt there list by being bold and brave.

Where as we can't even convince fringe players to commit to our club because we are paying overs for a players who's played no footy in two years

What I think we really need is a CHF. The options that I can think of are Gumbleton, Mitch Thorp, Lewis Johnston and if the deal is right, Aaron Black or Robbie Tarrant. Another tall defender would be nice and more midfield run. The only way we can secure some of these names is to give something and the only real currency we have, as much as I don't want to give him up is Yarran. What do people think of these possibilities:

Yarran or Yarran and pick/player for:

Essendon** for Gumbleton and Jetta

Adelaide for Lewis Johnston and Bernie Vince

North Melbourne for Luke Delaney and Aaron Black or Robbie Tarrant (might be worthwhile looking at Ayden Kennedy in a separate deal).

Another thing I think Carlton need to look at is moving Judd to HBF. Gibbs played the best I have seen him play in the last few games when Judd was out with his knee. Players aren't getting developed in the midfield when he is there and his football brain, effort and field kicking would be better used back rather than up forward. This would also free up either/or Simpson/Tuohy for more midfield run.