In terms of signatures and formal announcements?

I'm guessing the club will know what's going and preparing next/other moves appropriately within the next couple of days.

Unless of course Collingwood are shifty/smart and keep Daisy in the dark as to whether they will match the offer until the very last moment. Which if I were them, would be exactly what I would do if it meant a rival might be somewhat hampered in making other moves.

Oh bloody hell. WE'LL NEVER KNOW.

..i like the look of Adams as well, and youth is a big advantage cos as a team we still have a way to go.. ..however he won't address our need for big bodied mids [n either will daisy].. ..for his age Adams is a nuggety type sure, but he's also just 178cm..

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What about Gunstan, when did he change the spelling of his name?

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Cause he would be the first player in the history of the AFL to knock back a bigger offer to stay at the club that plucked him from obscurity.

$450000 is a proportional piece of the pie. He obviously wants more. There are clubs willing to give him that money. Pack your bags and POQ.

I'll bet you Brian Lake wouldn't be on $400000

Loyalty works both ways BV. You're right. I was shattered when we lost JK. Said from day one that we paid overs for Judd.

In Eddie's case, the CFC gave him his opportunity when others hadn't.

For me, a successful trade period will be one where Betts goes and Thomas stays at Collingwood. At least on the surface, it will look as though we don't pander to the avarice of players

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Think from memory Lake gave up around 200k to move to Hawthorn.

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What a joke....ha ha....what a fool, fancy placing more value on going to a club to taste the ultimate success than financial gain

Surely he must be the only player in the AFL who has made a conscious decision to accept less money...it's all about the money isn't it Rhino.

Unless Geelong's salary cap is $15000000, there might be some others as well I'm guessing

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He did.
Players knock bigger offers from rival clubs every year to stay at their clubs.
Not many leave for money unless it is a huge difference. eg Ablett and now Buddy.

I laugh at those who talk about loyalty.
If your boss offered you a new contract for two years on a bit more than you're getting now and a rival company offered you three years on 50% more, what would you do?

Errrrrrrr. Errrrrrr. Phone a friend? Don't think so.

What's the difference?

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Well, I'd take the job that would progress my career. The only time I'd leave for money would be if it'd be my last job. I've taken a paycut to work at a better place before. God, I even once knocked back a 150% payrise because I thought the job would lead to a place I didn't want to go.

But this is Betts' last job in football, so he'd be mad not to take the money. Especially given the fact he'd be leaving a club that doesn't look like winning a flag anytime soon. And yeah, the club would ship him off the moment it could if it thought it was worth it. Loyalty? Not in this competition.

..i agree with what you're saying, and i agree on principle when talking pure dollars per contract.. ..but football has more to it.. ..does being a one club 200+ gamer allow for good post career opportunities?, more'so than being a two club type..??....i don't know, but it seems 1 club 'champs' are looked upon more favourably.. ....and of course, if they believe greater opportunity to play senior footy, and/or flag opportunity will be a big factor.. ..just as in many work places there may be much more to your choice than pure dollar value..

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It's not a fair comparison.
Neither my current nor my future boss could offer me an AFL premiership and Australian sporting immortality.
Neither could offer to put me at the top of my game in the best competition in the world in front of 60,000+ cheering fans who invest time, energy and passion on supporting me, defending me to their friends and gloating with me over the team's successes (unless you are a Carlton player who received disproportionate bagging from their own supporters... )
In neither my current nor future jobs am I making life-long friendships forged in the heat of elite competitive sport.

While I understand the role of money in professional sport, and think its great for the players who deserve it and ultimately the fans, pls don't try to compare what I (and most of us) do and my/our work choices with what they do and their work choices.

To each their own. I'll bet there are tens of thousands of Geel supporters who are glad their players don't subscribe to your theory

And, I'll bet there are at least half a dozen Geel players who'll tell you where you can shove the extra coin if it meant taking away one of their premierships. Harry Taylor comes to mind (and he already has 3 premiership medallions in the back pocket)

I'll say it again...Betts wants the money, flower off and enjoy spending it in Rundle Mall

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Kind of agree but there are sometimes other factors in play. I took a redundancy package last year as I wasn't prepared to uproot my kids from high school and move the family to Queensland. Ended up taking a job that paid less to stay in Melbourne. It would take a mighty offer to get me to move my life interstate. I can understand the kids that get drafted interstate and want to come home, there's more to life than money. Sure if you are offered Buddy/Gazza coin you take it because it will set you up for life, long after you have finished playing and can afford to live wherever you like. There's a point where lifestyle and other factors kick in.

Money is all relative as well. I've no idea how much B. Lake has stashed away. I do know that J. Packer wouldn't get out of bed for $200K pa but some of us on here would move mountains for it. Maybe the Premiership medal and the Norm Smith are worth more than $200K to him because he has millions invested already.

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Good point. What other jobs are out there that have hundreds of thousands of supporters and members cheering for you? How many jobs have kids wearing your number on their backs, chanting your name?
Cant compare the two, totally different industries.
Betts will earn more in the next 4 years than i will earn in the next 20 years. You will have to excuse me for having hard feelings towards him.

That's not loyalty you're talking about there. That's self-interest, just not of the monetary kind. Those Geelong boys stay because they want to remain part of something special, not because of any loyalty to the hooped jumper.

Sacrificing income for success is a very different thing to loyalty. Asking Betts to stay at Carlton instead of going to Adelaide is asking him to sacrifice income without any real likelihood of premiership success.

I wish we had a club culture worth selling to players, but we don't.

with Buddy at the swannies, it will create havoc now with other FA/trades - GWS could snap up anyone now including Daisy....

The only thing that would stop Daisy wearing blue in 2014 is

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Buddy isn't at the Swans yet. Eddie McGuire's head hasn't exploded. Until it does, I'll have to presume it's just another rumor.

Its not Doc as GWS has withdrawn their offer. GWS have confirmed it via Twitter.