True, but there must be some reason why there is no one left who wants to take up the challenge of turning the club's fortunes around.

There are, but it'd have to be the right time and they'd have to be assured they come on as President...that's not an assurance that anyone at Carlton can give when the likes of the Pratts and Mathiesons believe they should be holding the puppet strings.

I don't trust Carlton to have an amicable clean-out at board level. My preference is for half of the current board remain, some new blood (with a clear, transparent skill-set) to come in and for the son of a former President to become President. Not everyone is going to like that. But the son is very different to the father. Knows a lot of people. Understands the business world. Understands Carlton. Knows the past. Knows the direction needed to go forward. Is charismatic. Has personality. Doesn't mince words. Can build the brand post-150.

Could mix his roles (non-executive director of a private wealth-management group and his 3AW program), lives nearby in Fitzroy. Could manage the ego's of the oligarchy that currently exists. Would have the ear of some very good people who have stayed clear of Carlton for some time.

Tom Elliott is now 43. It's time.

Good idea, Doc.

I believe everyone would think he is John's puppet though.

Tom is very different to Jack. I think people would see pretty quickly that they're different kind of operators. Time moves pretty quickly. Tom isn't referred to as 'John's boy' anymore. Carlton needs a charismatic personality, a good spokesman, a bloke that people enjoy listening to and don't cringe whenever the President opens his mouth. We need a person who understands the AFL and how it operates, how footy clubs operate, isn't in a bubble and we're happy for him to represent Carlton at any level. Did anyone else hold their breath when Sticks went to the meeting last week to discuss the Essendon** saga?

We've got a bloke in charge who hasn't left the place since he arrived during the 1985 Christmas holidays. If you don't think he's stuck in a bubble - you're sorely mistaken.

I haven't spoken to Tom in a long time. I knew him quite well in the mid-late 90's. But I know people who know him well, and I'll sound them out. Tom was interested in joining the board at the end of 2006. It wasn't the right time then....but it is the right time now. Kernahan, Fried, Clarke, Geminder and Gleeson must go. And at least 3 out of that 5 know it. LoGiudice should have been cut loose over the Chris Judd 'Sovereign Hotels Pokie' affair.

Stuff the advisory board (for now). Let's get some of these people on who are tired of seeing Carlton spinning wheels. I'm losing patience.

Agree Doc

However, there is no way Members would allow an Elliot take over Carlton again.

Unfortunately, Tom is tied with the same brush as John.

I'm not happy with jack, but I'd love Tom to be president and I think others would follow suit provided jack is told in no uncertain terms that he should not get involved in the lobbying of his sons presidential race.

That's the easy part. The hardest part is convincing Bruce Mathieson that he can't run the club from the Gold Coast, even though he has locked us into a very risky debt management plan. It's time to put the egos to one side. Like Craig Mathieson, Jeanne Pratt is welcome to stay on the board. But one Pratt will suffice - particularly when the son-in-law's input is so minimal and he has a clear lack of understanding of the Carlton Football Club.

I'm not so sure that its so cut and dried that Newton will take over from Sticks.

Sticks does want Newton as he sees him as a mate and someone who will 'look after his legacy'. I know I find that fanciful as well - but it is important for Sticks to be seen in a positive light - thats all he has.

Swan needs Newton as well - as then the status quo doesn't change for him - he gets do keep doing his cushy CEO job without putting in any great effort to be innovative or try to get ahead of the curve.

The board does need a shake up and the only person on in who wants the job and will reshape the board is Fahour. Newton v Fahour. Newton may have the numbers at the moment but things can change.