bax wrote:
SnickerS wrote:
Can we please shut this thread down.
Its pathetic and Richmond like.
Why shut it down? I started this thread and the reason I did was to get people's opinion. All along I felt MM's appointment was a mistake and I tell you what a lot supporters where I sit every week are thinking the same thing.
Because he has failed miserably this year he is now stating the our players are not good enough. These are the same players that had us premiership favorites at round 3 last year before our horrid run of injuries, these are the same players that but for a bit of luck and lack of concentration could have beaten some of the top teams just 8 or so weeks ago.
This is coming from the same coach that played three ruckman against St Kilda in a selection move that blind Freddy could see was a mistake. This is coming from the same coach that took three midfielder's out of last weeks team and replaced them with none against a team whose midfield almost ran riot against the Swans.... This is the same coach that could not see that Henderson was required back against the Bulldogs when we were being killed back there. But no our list is not good enough to make finals... we are two games out of the 8 right? We'll here's two that we should have won but for his poor coaching.
And to the players, what he is doing to Yarran is a disgrace, what he is telling him is that he is not good enough to be in our starting 18, what 3 or 4 times he's been the sub and dropped once? Instead of realizing we can't play 4 small forwards he allows Yarran to take the heat that MM should otherwise take. The way some Carlton supporters are turning on Yarran has me disgusted!!
Why do Curnow, Cachia, Armfield and Rowe keep getting games? Say what you want about these guys but the all have their limitations. How many clangers did Curnow make on the weekend, he missed a simple goal from 15 meters out and couldn't even make the distance from 35m!!!! But hey two of his clanger kicks turned into flukey goal assists so he'll be in again this week.
How can so many players go backwards all in the same year? Who has improved under his watch, I struggle to name more that Henderson and Touhy? How many have gone backwards... How much time do you have?
So don't ask for this thread to be closed, make a counter argument, back something up with some facts.
If our list is so bad then did Ratten overachieve and if he did then he was a good coach right?
Here's a question for you, Have you considered that appointing MM was a mistake?
Hi Bax
can you please post the team you would have selected against the Bulldogs in this thread?
I would like you to prove your point.
I thought we had one less tall than needed the week before so I was comforted with the inclusion of Waite.
The Kreuzer injury was a ruck for ruck replacement.
Bootsma was a surprise granted....but when we had our mids against their mids in the first and second quarter, prior to injury, fatigue etc...they shitted on us.
You cant blame the coach for our blokes not going hard enough....sure MM could have benched them, like Murphy, then you'd be screaming out we're short of mids if he had done so.
Have a look at what the players dished out in Pagan's last year, Ratten's last year and MM's last week....it is the players who are the problem...I'm not sticking up for them.
Lets get some lfe into this list. We need someone from the outside to point out that we are a middle of the road club.
I've come to that realisation, after it has cost me a lot of $$$$ that they are average...there's a thread on that too.