List management = find a mad scientist with better supplements than the rest

Gibbs or Walker anyone ??? Both have played defence long enough. Release them for goodness sake!
Bring in Duigan or here's something different play Curnow or Cachia back for something different(???)
DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT MM!!!!!! Not the same as Ratten and claim them you're own.

Its moving the deckchairs on the titanic. Ok move walker forward but then Yarran has to play back and he isn't defensive enough
Gibbs isn't a ruckrover - not hard enough - doesn't break the lines.

I like Walker with 50 goals to his name as a forward but it would just about cost us 50 up the other end.

Gibbs kicking is elite - Goddard standards. Actually is better but doesn't get the opportunity to show it. Annoys me to no end because he can break the lines and hurt the opposition. Walker does as well but we don't play these 2 enough through the middle and then decide to take Simmo out of there as well. Go figure.

If they don't play in defence you end up with Jamo to Curnow to Robbo to opposition like what happened Saturday night.

You need good disposers of the ball in defence, unfortunately we lack players with that skill to allow our better mids to play up the field more.

Watson?
Scotland?
Bootsma?

They're all pretty good kicks. I like Walker forward. I like the idea of Gibbs midfield/forward.

Walker kicking 40 goals this year would have won us a couple more games. His defensive work in the last few weeks hasn't been that flash.
And I am not going to repeat my thoughts on Gibbs ad infinitum.

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Well weren't we condemned to 100 yrs of hell??? Recall that? Jack E wasn't it??

Quite possibly so
Who knows but I think what's happened is he's got to the club and realized how bereft we are of good defenders - remember be doesn't rate Duigs nor Laids - and so has to deploy Bryce and Tex and Scotland and Simpson down back which leaves a huge void onball so maybe he's patching it up with defensive mids

Wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. He is Defense first as a coach so maybe he's trying to shore that part of the ground up first, though frankly Walker is not a defender he's deplorable one on one and is a bit like TBird in the way he lays blame elsewhere

Touhy also is arguably not a defender given his uncanny knack of kicking goals on the run and his lax marking of opponents

With an ageing midfield and one stocked with too many taggers, and small forwards who lack hardness it's almost as if the club need to totally change things up.

Reality is the list is ageing and this group of players' ceiling was 5th. The list clearly isnt good enough

It's not just about hardness - Lucas, Warnock, Betts, Jeff, Bryce, Yazz etc. - its also about lack of skill - Robbo, Jamison, Curnow, Bell, Levi, Hampson etc

There's a lot wrong with the list and I think history will show Ratts did well and quite possibly maximized this lists potential taking them to 5th

But things have changed ...

- Judd is slowing down
- Murphy has bad two years of injuries
- the rucks have not come on
- Laidler was cruelled by injury ditto Carrots

Oh sugarcane how do you work that one out?

Sheehan said Yarran won't play again this year and won't be at the club next year.

If true what does it say about our drafting/development/coaching?

Wasn't MM meant to get the best out of everyone? Quite a few appear to have gone backwards under MM.

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What pick was he again? This to go with Russell, Bower & Grigg ... hmmm

But yarrans on my membership card

Hit the nail on the head.

chase shane kersten from the cats, 2nd rounder.
chase alex silvangi from freo, probably 2/3 rounder.
chase tom bellchambers from Essendon*, player swap or two 2nd rounders.
trade anyone apart from henderson, menzel and graham.........

Yeah, we need another senior ruckman on the list. Then perhaps we could experiment and try and play all 4 in the one team.

Goddard is a better kick ... has more tricks ... can really drill low and hard ... Gibbs kicks lack speed in their delivery.

This trade period is so important.

Unless we nail it, we are headed to bottom 4 by 2015.

Changing coach has been like changing deck chairs on the titanic.

Did you expect him to see eye to eye with every player?

Some have gone forwards - kids like Lucas and Watson and Cachia
Hendo has improved

Betts' problem is greed
Carrazzo and Murphy have had injuries two years running
Duigan is a turnover merchant
Laidler was slow and since the knee injuries is a virtual statue out there

A lot of the players just arent mentally tough - Warnock, Yarran
Apparently the latter was smiling in the rooms post game- wow, that's startling. He has no idea

Maybe Mick cant correct all their psychologies

The ones with talent and mental fortitude will remain and he will maximize their potential

Not all players on the list have what it takes. It's why we haven't been top four since what 2000??

Stefchook,
Reckon warnock and hampson are gone, hence bellchambers coming in.
No chance warnock and hampson would push us towards a flag...
Bellchambers can ruck and play forward, unlike the names above..
Shane kersten as a key forward and alex silvangi as a key defender,
then all other picks go towards mids..
Menzel, graham, mcInnes, bell, Watson and bootsma will provide
grunt and skill in 2014 and beyond..
We could look like,
mcInnes Jamison Watson
walker silvangi bootsma
Simpson graham Lucas
Menzel Henderson Gibbs
Garlett kersten bellchambers
Kreuzer judd murphy
Bell tuohy betts mids from draft
Plenty of flexibility, just my thoughts mate..