As they seem to forget during the week !!

If betts yarran and garlett all play next week we are a laughing stock.
See menzel; bucks; graham

@CarltonFC: Malthouse: "I don't think we were hard at all. They belted us."

People bagging Gibbs' efforts tonight must have never seen Chris Mayne play and don't know how important he is to Freo.

Great effort by Gibbs tonight.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

@CarltonFC: Malthouse: "Five of our top six possession getters were backs. That says it all. We were defending all night."

Too many negative midfielders - Curnow, Cachia, Carrazzo.

Murphy surely not fit - has done very little since the injury.

I said in the pre match thread that Warnock should be considered. Clarke and Sandilands monstered Kreuzer and Rowe. Kreuzer wasn't rucking against a midget this week. Warnock would have given him support.

Smashed in centre clearances 9 to 15 - again, this comes back to playing Warnock. Were the MC aware of Clarke's height/ability in the ruck? Kreuzer struggles against Sandilands, let alone against Sandi and Clarke.

Kreuzer 1 mark for the evening - just monstered.

No lock down defenders - meant to be Walker and Tuohy but we've seen time and time again they are not suited to those roles - they love to attack. Walters and Ballantyne will make you pay. No lock down defender to call on except a first year player.

No system coming out of defence - Carlton always seem to get exposed against these teams which have very good defensive systems.

Forward line of Rowe-Henderson-Watson is too slow. Unfortunately Rowe/Watson are too slow to play on Mayne.

Just a poor balance all over the place.

Get some attacking midfielders/forwards in there - Graham and Menzel.

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@CarltonFC: Malthouse: "Our opposition hurt us with their work-rate. There is a gulf that we need to fix quickly."

We seem to be outmarked all over the ground every week....anyone else notice that?

When a Carlton player takes a mark; we almost celebrate as though it's something special.

And....we definitely over handballed tonight; and it was just a case of how long before the inevitable turnover.

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SEASON IS OVER

Don't worry Sticks says we are going fine......

I just doubt that having Gibbs play a role like that is a luxury we can afford

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"I had to eat"

i dont think i could come up with 5 players worthy of votes for the TC MVP

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I don't mind Rowe in the side in theory. The "Leigh Brown role" is a worn out term these days, but I think he's better than that, he offers more up forward.

But he's not even close to being an AFL standard second tall forward.

Have written off Casboult, Warnock and Hampson. Don't think Waite and Henderson in the same forward line is a great mix. Rowe as a third tall is a very good option.

Perhaps Watto down there as well, and another defender needs to be found? Jamison was woeful tonight also.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

More pissed off at doing far too much $$ on either team under 24 I think..

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

I think you'll find that was Rita Mae Brown.

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This team makes far too many mental errors with the ball, and they do not have clean hands. Love Kreuzer's work but he has hands of stone and constantly fumbles around the packs and he is not alone there.

Baffling and frustrating to see Rowe play ahead of Casboult this week, selectors again proving they have NFI so status quo there.

If you are not going to put on size and strength in the gym then your aerobic capacity must be superior to the other clubs. We are neither here nor there, Malthouse must surely have realised by now that we do not have the body strength or mental strengh to play a contested boundry style of play against good teams, and yet on the flip side we cannot run teams off the park because we don't have the fitness base.

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

Another game showing that another above average tall forward is required.

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I am a big fan but what has happened to Walks? Has been very off lately.

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We are on our way back...

to go to water after the ballantyne scuffle, shirt ripping incident is simply @#$%&! pathetic

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Argue about the MC's choice but we already have people saying Gibbs was rubbish when he was a clear winner in a game that was finals intensity (from Freo anyway).

And it wasn't a loose man in defence role, he was on the their most important marking/goal kicking option .
Great game.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Who was it that kicked the ball away? Jamo?

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