If Eddie leaves, we won't be getting compensation because we'll be getting our own Free agents. It would be a disaster if he left.

3 small forwards might not work, but the solution is moving Yarran to the wing, not letting Eddie walk to another club.

In theory maybe but Yarran at the moment he would be effectively a forward pocket on a wing. Doesn't do anywhere near enough for long enough. Look at Geelong, Hawthorn & Sydney. ALL of their small forwards spend QUALITY time through the midfield. They contribute CONSISTENTLY.

The only time any of them work is when we dominate the midfield and we get it in quick.

This is part of the reason we are downhill skiers. One we could have but three limits us dramatically.

Personally I would much rather have Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Lucas, Robinson, Graham, McLean, Carrazzo, Touhy, Menzel, Armfield, Buckley, Ellard, Bell, Cachia pushing through the midfield and up forward.

Gives us much more midfield AND forward line options and much harder to match up on and make us a better team!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Aside from Dale Thomas, who else is out there? It's a terrible list.

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Also - if we do pick up a low ranking player, it doesn't necessarily effect our eligibility for compensation for Betts.

i.e. Lets say we picked up Xavier Ellis. This would at worst drag the compensation down maybe a couple of picks. Its similar to what happened with Melbourne last year in that the recruitment of Shannyn Byrnes had no effect on what was received for Rivers and Maloney.

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The situations are completely different. Fevola was responsible for 25% - 30% of our goals over his last 2 seasons and had the majority of our inside 50s directed his way. Removing him enabled us to spread the ball around more and made us less predictable. It didn't result in increased scoring per game of per inside 50 though looking at the numbers.

Removing Eddie and his salary would make some sense if we had a key forwards who could give us 40-50 goals a year or midfielders who could play forward and replace a significant part of his goal scoring but we don't have either of those things. Until we do I'd rather not weaken an already weak forward group for a compo pick and cap space we can generate elsewhere.

The Fevola one was two fold though. We had our best seasons out of Judd, Murphy and Gibbs that year also, which would indicate that the quality of the ball coming in inside 50 also has a big say in how we score, not just where its going.

The scenario you pose about midfielders and key forwards is chicken or the egg stuff. We can have those things, or at least be in a better position to attract them with that money and also better chance of opportunities. Whilst I agree re: where the extra cap money can (and probably will) come from with Warnock/Joseph/Scotland/Davies etc, who's to say that it hasn't already been spent retaining Murphy and Kreuzer, and a view to retaining Gibbs next year?

As good as Betts has been, I'd still argue that the money spent, in comparison to what 400k buys on the market, is still probably overs.

The other reason I advocate trading Betts, is the need to get in as much as possible in the top 20 picks of the draft. I don't see what else on our list will attract that much interest? If we can get a top 20 pick for Yarran, I'd be rapt, but I just don't see it happening. If we think we're getting it for Warnock or Hampson, we're dreaming.

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Yarran is worth at least a pick 8-12. List all the pick 12s - he is better than them. At his best he is a top 5 pick

Rioli
Frawley
Schulz
Burgoyne
Reilly

Pick a different number next time.

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He may be worth that on talent or potential but he is not worth it on what he has achieved and at nearly 23 years old and 4 seasons under belt he needs to improve or his value will drop dramatically.

Personally I think trade him now why he has some value. I have real doubts he will ever produce consistent top level football.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

What do u want for him????

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As much as we can get NOW. I don't think he will be worth much in a year or two.

If GWS are happy to take him as part of a deal for No.1 I would jump at it.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Shhh! Don't let on with GWS

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I think they would want him.

The deal of Yarran, Pick 9, Hampson & McLean may get us pick 1 & Jacksh who wants to come home. If it did I'd do it.

Get Jesse White for Third Round and Daisy Thomas via Free Agency.

Is there a club that will give us a second rounder for Warnock?

Can we get anything for Robinson?


If we got Boyd with No.1, White whilst he develops and Daisy plus a number of talented midfielders via the draft I would be very happy.


As an aside. I was told by someone up North that Jared Polec may be available for trade. Has struggled a bit in Brisbane but was a very talented kid and a star at U18s. May be worth looking at at?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

I wouldn't trade Eddie Betts. He is Carlton through and through. Nominated All-Australian 2011 & 2012. He can change a match - eg kicked five vs Collingwood last year, 6 vs Fremantle the year before, 8 vs Essendon*. He has played nearly 200 games. He is having a bad year this year though as a result of injury/suspension, but has some runs on the board, unlike someone like Waite who has offered much but delivered nothing.

Learn from the professionals -ie Sydney:

What Sydney does is trade for fringe players who were having trouble getting regular games - eg Ted Richards, Rhyce Shaw.
A fringe player at Sydney would be a Jesse White, Tommy Walsh, Harry Cunningham, Andrejs Everitt...plus they have worked in a system of a top club. I would look at someone like an Everitt for a trade.

We know White will be around next year:

CarltonFC: Malthouse: "Simon will be OK for next year. It's a shame he won't be available for the rest of the season. He was due to come in this week."

So he should. Still reckon he is a much better FB option than Jamison. When he filled in for him last year played some very good football and showed a better all round game.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Whats with all the White love fest....... Does not excel in anything in particular. Only a bit player. Wish him all the best though, but we cant clog up the list with guys like him. Its not like he is young either. If White is not a part of our best 22 now, then whats the point?

I believe he is. Very good defender and if Jamison wasn't so overrated he would be our full back. At 25 years old he's younger than Jamison as well.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

But he is undersized to be a full back.......... I actually prefer him as a forward to be honest.

But the point I am making, we have too many plodder in between players on our list, and cant keep them all. We have a few rookies to upgrade and also with free agency, trading, drafting etc, have to clear the list this year.

You need at least 30 players to be part of your best 22 which means at least 8 are going to miss out.
He is a good depth player.