How much money did we have to spend on recruiting and development prior to 2007?

Rogers has been here since 2008. Doubt that anyone in recruiting circles would take Mathieson seriously. They'd laugh.

Wells, Williams and co. recruited Prismall, Djerrkurra, Dawson Simpson, Simon Hogan, Tom Gillies, Adam Donohue, Stephen Owen, Scott Simpson, Dan McKenna, Mitch Brown and Ryan Gamble between 2004 and 2008.

Where they now?

If the talent isn't as good as many say, then I guess TC should apologise to Ratten for getting this list into the finals and within a kick of the top four.

You can't have it both ways.

Agreed that the drafting history looks dreadful, and obviously the recruiters have to bear some of the responsibility, but player development has to also be brought into question.

After many of these drafts, many here were saying what a great job the recruiters had done.

We've only added a third senior personnel into our recruitment department recently. WH has been a solo worker for a number of years when the other big clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn had about 5-6 staff in their recruiting department for a long long time.

Because your good buddy Ratten had all the deadwood locked in with 2 year contracts.

so what was swann doing - let's not forget he has been there since 2007, rats since the same year and sticks 2008. it's time

Anything in top 10 is like shooting fish in a barrel

All this media attention is a great thing. Hopefully the Fat Cats at Royal Parade will take some notice and start reviewing the whole place. This is OUR club too, start running it the right way and not as a sideshow hobby, ego, networking boost. First thing you can do is look at the drafting list mentioned previously in this thread. Now that's damning.

We've only added a third senior personnel into our recruitment department recently. WH has been a solo worker for a number of years when the other big clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn had about 5-6 staff in their recruiting department for a long long time.

Mitch Thorp, Beau Dowler, Tambling, JON and Vickery were top ten picks.

Don't care if we go for flankers, rucks, mids or homosexuals. They just need to be competitive.

We've only added a third senior personnel into our recruitment department recently. WH has been a solo worker for a number of years when the other big clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn had about 5-6 staff in their recruiting department for a long long time.

What about Cazzesman??

You won't hear me defend the Hughes record.

But I thought it was encouraging when I heard Rogers say last year that he drafted Temay and Graham because changes to the interchange / sub rule meant the game would become a lot more about endurance. It was refreshing because it was the first time I could remember hearing a recruiter of ours trying to pick a trend in the game and draft accordingly.

Therefore My question to those with much more knowledge than me is, do we lump Rogers in with Hughes and get rid of him, or does he in fact have more to offer?

You won't hear me defend the Hughes record.

But I thought it was encouraging when I heard Rogers say last year that he drafted Temay and Graham because changes to the interchange / sub rule meant the game would become a lot more about endurance. It was refreshing because it was the first time I could remember hearing a recruiter of ours trying to pick a trend in the game and draft accordingly.

Therefore My question to those with much more knowledge than me is, do we lump Rogers in with Hughes and get rid of him, or does he in fact have more to offer?

You won't hear me defend the Hughes record.

But I thought it was encouraging when I heard Rogers say last year that he drafted Temay and Graham because changes to the interchange / sub rule meant the game would become a lot more about endurance. It was refreshing because it was the first time I could remember hearing a recruiter of ours trying to pick a trend in the game and draft accordingly.

Therefore My question to those with much more knowledge than me is, do we lump Rogers in with Hughes and get rid of him, or does he in fact have more to offer?