Plenty of reviews on TC - nothing by the club though. I think the review on where we are at, could be knocked over by most of us in half a day, it's the step by step future plan that is more important.

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Get comfortable being uncomfortable

3 new boards in 20 years and all of a sudden we want another change to change things.....fmd, no idea!

It needs to field teams that can win games of @#$%&! football

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

All for an independent review.

Wouldn't mind a 7 year maximum for board membership either.

Too many people involved at the highest levels of the club who are under the misapprehension that they actually are the club.

Much more interested in individuals who have something to offer coming in and contributing before moving on and handing over to others to add their bit. Keeps up the energy, adds to the broader club network and stops pathetic attempts to cling to power by the incompetent.

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Turkish Proverb

I question the integrity of the reviews we have had. What actions have we undertaken based on the reviews recommendations? Has their been any recommendations to start with or is the joint running at world best practice?

We don't need the surbuban financial planner come movie producer providing another review because the end result is nought.

Of course Sticks standing at the CFC does not excuse him of analysis....the outcomes under his stewardship is there for all to see. The question is how is he removed without another spectacular bloodbath and alienation of fans.

The problem with petitions is they're one document that's easily thrown in the bin.

Would be interesting to see the reaction at the club if they were to receive 5-10,000 letters asking for a full independent review Of the club and the end of the endless reluctant presidency.

Would make an interesting article in the daily newspapers at the least.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
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Talk of Yarran and Kreuzer for Boyd.

Yarran and Kreuzer both came to the club with great fanfare as all our early picks have.... and will they be frogmarched out of the joint for the next great hope?
What happens to early picks when they come to our club? Is it the air at Visy?
Kennedy a pick 3 and a pick 3 and 20 gone.
Grigg
Russell
Hartlett
Bower
Austin
soon a few more to go.... Hampson ...Warnocks pick.Kreuzer and Yarran???(at east 2 or 3 of them will be gone)
Rowe a second rounder.Laidler a second rounder...
Recruitment, list management and development... needs a proper review!!!

I bet next year Murphy and Gibbs will be packaged up for next years pick number 1.
A few years down the track Boyd and next years number 1 to be pakaged up for number 1 pick(Great white hope of/ for 2017)???

Who is responsible for this madness???

Its how things get done around here...

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Of course that 2017 great white hope number 1 pick will be delisted in 2023 having waited for it to come good....just never made it.....

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a proper independent review surrey... if the club is well administered it would welcome one... no????

Why would anyone not welcome a proper review is beyond me......

you dont agree Surrey?
List your reasons!!!

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Totally agree

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I need some new conspiracy theories; all my others have come true.

agree with this.

talk of trading talent like kreuzer and yarran for the next great white hope and piling pressure on him to succeed and then most likely smashing him a season or 2 in because he isnt what we expected is not what i want to see but what will most likely happen should we take this route.

weve got some pretty talented players... why cant the club just build on that with some smart recruiting/trading & focus on development.

Blame Malthouse for any up and coming trades. The people that wanted a new coach need to defend The changes coming. As far as I'm concerned now the players, administrators and supporters / members deserve what they get. Everyone is so keen to throw the baby out with the bath water, without thinking of the consequences and long term value, .ie tanking, board changes, coaching changes and even trading!!!! Think stability and togetherness of power clubs and not what we keep doing!!!!

why blame mm..??
the board got him.
there is a footy manager to check and balance.

why mm?? lol

seeeeeeee................................. this is why we need an independent review.

why would u blame just mm when he is hired and fired from futher up and we have a foty manaager
people blame him for signing autographs in pre season,,, why?
he told them he would be doing that.......!!!.. they still got him and were weak a bout it.

the board sets the tone for the rest of the club and its reflected on field...

u are confused again surrey.. why b;ame someone when a bunch of other people control the situation ,,,???

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well ratts and co allowed us to take 1 player for 3 players
now were going to trade at least 2 players and maybe a pick for 1 player

this reminds me of rugby... where 3 guys push 2 guys up one guys arse...

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Everyone except for Sticks ..... Lol
CEO and members wanting change every 2nd year can flower off now!!!

so mm is the most powerful person at the club now is he???

See Surrey.. you dont have a clue.. on one hand sticks is a srtrong president uniting a great board on the other malthouse is running rampant...ruining the club... which is it???
then there is the footy manager... andy mckay.. whats his role in all this???

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You cannot pick and choose Synbad.
CEO is in charge. He is making the changes and bringing in his pals, probably for superannuation.
We all know certain members of the board wanted a change and pulled the trigger along with the CEO.
Others had no choice but to agree, that is the way it goes when majority have the vote. It's called a fair system.

Ps. MM is in charge of who goes and who stays just like Ratten did with "trades". Just to be clear, not drafting.

I read the site lots....rarely post

Heres my take

A full independent review is needed I would agree.
For a club as an organisation a review is imperative and common sense one would think. It is underacheiving basically...at least in many supporters eyes....so lets find out why...a review probably would do that.

The problem though is deeper than that.

A review wont explain why the team....(which is really all we care about right)...is made up of more or less not a single professional footballer outside of Judd. By professional I mean in the head...not by salary. The team has two types.

1. Talented lads that have always been told theyre great and have always relied on talent over true work ethic. Classic example Gibbs

2. Real triers that just dont execute with skill under real pressure. Classic example Robinson

on top of this as a group they have always had excuses made for them.

This is the crux of the matter ....not sure a review and change of management can fix that

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Might go part of the way to finding out why we pick them - and also why we can't do anything with them after we pick them.

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Well at least mm has a record that is sprinkled with some success in this regard,as for your mate ratts well go and watch the magoos and you will get a better idea of 5 years of incompetent trading and what not to do.