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He's had serious knee issues. He is very lightly built.

Clearly someone like Wines is ready to go. O'Meara had been in the system for a year already. Toumpas and Mayes haven't done much.

It doesn't help your development playing on a wind swept shit heap at Preston.

Whitfield has done little to impress this year. O'Rourke hasn't played. Plowman hasn't shown much.

Look at GWS - Patton, Coniglio, Tyson, Hoskin-Elliott, Buntine and then Wingard - they let Wingard go!

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Maybe, but can you see the consistency?

It just seems like we pick these flawed talents that seem to take forever to show any ability. For once I'd like to see a player step up and play consistent senior footy. I hope he is as good people think, I really do.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Seriously?? Bloody impressed me.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Give him a chance ffs

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"I had to eat"

It's not about him as such, it's about what we consistently do with our selections.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

After 21 seconds.....all around were jut laughing. Looked pathetic.

Didn't watch the game. I didnt think we were any chance at all.

My reasoning had nothing to do with team selections, recruitment or process.

It came on the back of what I thought were three very competitive and meritorious performances and THEN in the same week as these guys have done what they can the coach is reported to have told a coterie group that 25% of the 22 that played in the Swans game are not good enough to play in a flag team, he then goes on to re-state that he had a preferred game plan, but can't implement it because the player group can't do it so he's had to amend it i.e. players no good.

The CEO then comes out and says that there will be a big turnover of players at the end of the year. i.e players no good.

So, no matter what MM and the coaching staff have been saying to the group they, the players, would suspect that's not his real opinion of them.

So, the good players think the average players are holding them back, the average players think the coach reckons they are shit and the whole player group now thinks there's no point sacrificing themselves.

It's different to Blighty and "Pitiful Pittman" because it doesn't single out the offender and target his behaviour, by nominating a percentage there could be as many as 8 players thinking the coach reckons they are no good and as a result MM has thrown a bucket of sh1t over the team.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

didn't affect the players for the first 20 minutes of the game, but i get your point

Part of the issue is that nobody in the side, except Robinson and Tuohy and a couple of others really like the tough stuff.

There is nothing wrong with being open to running through a few blokes to make them know you're there to play and intimidate them.

Too many of our players maybe good at the flashy skills-based stuff but footy is as much about physicality and hard work as skills.

That's one reason I don't mind Cachia. He gets in there and does the tough stuff. If we're going to have 1 pure guts and determination footballer in the side it's him. His disposal is better than Curnow as well. He's also more of a pure midfielder than some of the others who masquerade as such.

Agree with much that's been said; too many flankers who run their 5 minutes through midfield. Not good enough. We should be drafting pure midfielders who can play a role down back or go forward a bit. Simpson is a good example. A midfielder who can play a HBF role if required. Carrazzo started out as a BP with us. Scotland is another midfielder who learnt how to play off HB.

That's where Gibbs' education is all wrong. He needs to be played in the middle and learn that. We know he can play HBF. All of our best midfielders except Judd and Murphy could play a HBF role but they're good value up forward when they're resting. There's no point drafting "medium defenders" and hoping they can play onball, it doesn't happen like that anymore. Medium defenders are a dead breed.

I always worried when we kept drafting so-so talls because everyone was saying "Carlton needs a tall forward". We never replenished our midfield properly and that always worried me.

It's sad but Judd won't ever win a premiership at Carlton. If any tall (except Kreuzer) has trade value then he has to go. And most importantly, we need leaders. Andy McKay was a leader. More in his mould is what we need.

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Like I said Rexy, didn't see it.

But let me guess, we ran around really well and looked a million bucks.

Then it got tough?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

pretty much

Robbo unloading all his pent up rage on Carlton on Crunchtime SEN

We were good at opening up the cheque book in the past that was for players - now they have stripped that away from us to a great extent, lets use the open cheque book to bring the BEST off field staff to the footy department, ie Recruitment, development, list manager, GM Football, etc - from Geelong and Sydney.

There are no barriers here and if it means paying over the odds to get them, JUST DO IT!!!! It's the Carlton way and we are good at, so lets leverage one of the few strengths we have!!!!

GREG SWANN - PLEASE READ THIS!!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

we're paying WAY OVERS for Swann !

We are paying way overs for every Collingwood reject

Cazzesman is very quiet, given all the flak on the recruitment department over the best part of the last 8 to 10 drafts

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

From another site.

I know it was the Richard Pratt Cup, but forcing a 2 hour prostate examination on all male Carlton supporters was taking things a bit far.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Collingwood were terrible in that first 20 min. They were loose, their disposal was shit, pressure was non existent. It wasn't like we were brilliant.

Anyway, agree with others, long term job ahead. Funnily enough a lot of us came to that realisation after the Adelaide loss last year. Then we made a late run at the finals. Then we got Malthouse.

And now it's back to reality.

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#DonTheStash

Teams have found Yazz out down back. Drag him back to FF line and see him one out. Yes, it worked but it's not his position anymore with these tactics. He should be able to cut it up on a wing by now but looks to still suffer from lack of fitness.
Interesting how he had a go A.Krak when he went down and A.Krak called him a weak c after putting through the goal.

See what happens at the MC meeting this week - what changes can be made and who will show something for the jumper. Last night was a weak as it comes. No one willing to impact on a contest to shake up the game.

And all this pre-STK game. They'll be licking their lips again, soft Carlton next up, you beauty 4 points to be had.

I think you mean the Port game but yes it does seem an eerily similar position.

Which is odd when you consider how much good trading and drafting we did at the end of last year...

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