It is an issue.

I agree we are masters of our own destiny, but fairness is part of the Australian ethos and must be upheld.

I'm calling a spade a spade.

For Carlton fans who know we are being reamed by umpires I'm talking to you.

Finally MM and Kerna had something to say about the umpiring last night...we got robbed.

If I was in Melbourne I'd gather a few people and get a few placards and stand outside the Umpires Den and demonstrate...it would get media attention...it would make an issue....who cares whether people call it winging...its honest and its our right to be heard!!!!!!

"Enough is Enough",
"Unfair treatement of Carlton has gone on long enough",
"Fair go Umpires",
"Umpires bias against Carlton must stop"

Just watch for the 2nd week ina row....Geishen..."we got it wrong"

Don't worry about those pricks, they are thick skinned and attention seekers, they love the limelight when its not their role to be noticed and they are paid plenty to get it right.

Last 2 weeks have been more costly than the 4 points. This is about standing up for our club FFS.

14-4 frees FMD!!!

Murphy being knocked out and broken a jaw in front of the umpire and no free kick says it all. The rest supports my argument. It was that obvious to me, then I read all the papers and its not me whinging...Its a disgrace the way Umpires treat Carlton.

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nothing in the Hodge/Murph contest - Hodge never left the ground, reaching out for the ball - unfortunate result of a physical contest that most little blokes will come out worse from

So I take it the umps didn't come into our rooms before the game to tell us how they were going to call the game?

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Clarkson is such a Wanker, after the game he approaches the supporters like the players do waving his arms and fists in the air, he's such a flog. Glad the Cats and Swans are around to keep them honest and hopefully deny them a flag.

If it was a free kick, it was reportable. it's either legitimate or it's not.

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I saw that as well.

Acute case of small man syndrome.

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This is how I see the incident according to the MRP, reckless conduct (unintentional), high impact and contact to the head. Homy many activation points/weeks does that equate to?

The clowns have set a precedent with Betts this year with three, so it must be that in the very least.

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"GIBBS."

I agree 100% in keeping footy a man's game - and I guess that is the angle you are coming from....i love the bump, but I have played enough footy games and seen enough to know the ways you can hurt your opponent deliberately while disguising it. Hodge (in my opinion) knew what he was doing. He led with his shoulder and high. That is enough in my books, but we both know he disguised it well enough to get off. He will get off due to the deception.

Hell, we can't complain. In the 1981 g/f Johnston broke Stewart's jaw. That had an impact on that match. Johnston was similar to Hodge- both enforcers in the physical stakes. Ever seen the 1988 2nd semi vs Hawthorn? Guess who had his jaw broken in that match - It wasn't a bit time player- It was Carlton's most important player. Wayne Johnston. Similar thing here - take out their best player if you are going to take out anyone. They did that well.

yeah i have no doubt what hodge was doing there.... even if he was pretending to play football.. he tried to take murph out

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tap, nothing wrong with Hodges technique of turning side on while reaching for the ball - little Murph just came off worse

Geez it's refreshing to see our new Coach actually sticking it to the umpires after the game!! I don't give a shit if we get a "please explain" from the AFL. I don't give a shit if Mick gets fined, players get fined or the whole club gets fined. Fine and suspend everyone for all I care because I've had enough!!....

Something has to be said to bring this issue to a head. It's the only way the maggots will think twice about paying dodgy frees against us and/or not rewarding us for great tackling. James Tird had to pay $20,000 and it has been the gift that keeps on giving for the Scum.

We are currently last in the League for average free kicks for @ 15.5 per game. Norf are averaging 23.4 - over 50% more than us per game!!

Don't even get me started on those cheating pricks wearing the dark brown trainer's shirts to trick our players into kicking to them. So @#$%&! furious....

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Rexy, I can see how you came to that conclusion. It was well disguised. Let's just leave it at that.

Hodge will get off.

He knows how to use his body well in a game of football. You need players who are willing to do what Hodge does even in today's sanitised brand of football.

One last thing - gotta say Kreuzer, for whatever reason, has been a massive disappointment to me in terms of output over his career. I guess my expectations are too high. 8 possessions vs Hawthorn, 6 against St Kilda, 13 against Essendon*...should have been a star...but I guess at least he is an above average ruckman.

It is just when you compare him to players such as in my avatar- Mike Fitzpatrick, who imposed himself on contests and was a genuine star ruckman. Fitzpatrick willed himself to define a match, so too mike green for richmond 1967-74, John Nicholls, even Mike Pyke last year... all went to the next level when required. Can't see Kreuzer doing that. He did it in one match last year. That is it.

It was either reckless or negligent, either way it leads to weeks on sidelines.

hodge has a big body and he knows how to use it...
trained in the art of hurting psuhing the rules
its quite a skill....

im not sure how hawthorn were allowed to have all 22 players jog off that field healthy last night.

i hate violence... but thats one game that should have been earmarked as a perfect for the friday night home viewer if the IWF wasnt on....

there are 4 or 5 players you wouldnt target because theyre like batfink... but there are a few players you can send away on an ambulance and have blokes like hodge off their game indirectly.. plus u clip their outside wings more.

hawthorn is suspect... they have a weird mix too...!!!... inside their hard to combat... but you can exploit them outside

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On a side note, who else noticed how many Hawks supporters are grotesquely obese with a mullet? Just an observation.

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"GIBBS."

One big positive is we made sure Gibson and Lake didnt carve us on the rebound.

Rowe, Waite and Cas forced accountability onto them. It came at the expense of way too many inside 50s going out wide, but better than facing a rebounding Hawks counter.

We have a very negatively focused midfield at the moment, but it seems to be working well. We seem to do well at the clearance and I think there's a directive to create as many stoppages as we can, knowing we're a chance to gain some ground with our solid clearance kings.

For those long distant deliberate out of bounds calls that are very random they should simply say that if the ball travels over 15m untouched before going out of bounds it is considered good play. Any thing less can be judged deliberate.
That takes that one out of the game.

We were very unlucky with a lot of calls last night. Enough to have that bad luck cost us a very very good chance of winning the game.

I thought Mick praised the umps after last weeks game. Didn't win us any friends.

you know... i overheard stkida supporters talking once... and they were talking a bout how many mono eyebrows we had in ur ranks... true story.... must have been alot of mono eyebrows they noticed.. cos half as many as on normal faces.

anyway... opposition supporters alwats morph into some weird LSD trip

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