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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:39 pm 
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No point giving Waite an extra week. He owes the club, his teammates and supporters. Why pay him big bucks to play in the 2's. He needs to get his act together and perform in the seniors. If he doesn't then drop him.


As it goes beyond the individual, and a statement to those who not only currently play for the club, but those who aspire to do so as well.
These are standards expected, and these are the ramifications for those who choose to consistently not meet them. Whether they're the captain or the bloke who's been at the club ten minutes.

Not as if we're in a race against time to justify the money spent on him so far either. He could win the Brownlow this year for all I care and it's still money pissed up the wall.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 pm 
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Hampson cannot be selected in the final 22.

What is MM seeing in him? I know Mick likes his big men just providing a contest, but he also like them creating assists. How many assists has Hampson generated? I'm sure he provided more to St Kilda last week than Carton.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:44 pm 
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Bigredisback wrote:
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As long as Jamo is OK, line up is good... backline nice and settled only missing Gibbs.

Waite back is a big plus... hope Rowe is selected he adds some grunt and toughness even if the polish isn't there.

Not sure I follow your thinkin' there, barass. Waite back is the single biggest minus of a selection for 2013. I'm hoping it's just a ruse and they actually play him in the twos. Then Rowe in for Waite, and Joseph, Cachia, Bell, and Menzel for the bench.


I agree... playing Waite is pi$$weak. the leadership team should have imposed another weeks ban

So u would give betts an extra week as that was much more stupid


No, but i was waiting for someone to ask me that, the 2 incidents are totally different, one was in the course of play, not dissimilar to many other bumps on a weekly basis but which resulted in head contact. the other was just a stupid almost kisslike act of stupidity with no possible value to the team either at the time that it was done or afterwards.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
Anyone who suggests Waite needed to have some kind of example made of him is speaking silly talk.

He copped a week from the MRP for a silly little thing. He didn't go around the whole game belting people or sulking or sooking.

Malthouse went through him like a hot needle through butter privately.

So how about people step off a bit and stop baying for blood.

This place is like the roman Colosseum at times... people just want someone to die.

your right tek it does get a bit extreme at times


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm 
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If they play Warnock and Kruezer in the same team again I'll ...

I'll ....


Oh who am I kidding.
I'll go along and hope for the best.

Maybe we should recruit another ruckmen and see if four works. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm 
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Effes wrote:
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To everyone who seems to think Waite should have been left out by the leadership group this week I ask you,

Has any team, coach, leadership group EVER imposed an extra week(s) ban for a suspended player in addition to that handed down by the tribunal?

And it doesn't count if it's a fringe player.
This is by far our best key forward in a team that is absolutely screaming for a key forward.
A guy that many believe to be the most important to our team, if not at least in the top 5.


Patrick Ryder is better than Gumbleton yet was kept out for another week.


That was for off-field stuff, not the suspension


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Effes wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Effes wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
To everyone who seems to think Waite should have been left out by the leadership group this week I ask you,

Has any team, coach, leadership group EVER imposed an extra week(s) ban for a suspended player in addition to that handed down by the tribunal?

And it doesn't count if it's a fringe player.
This is by far our best key forward in a team that is absolutely screaming for a key forward.
A guy that many believe to be the most important to our team, if not at least in the top 5.


Patrick Ryder is better than Gumbleton yet was kept out for another week.



HAHAHA what a joke.
Gumbleton had kick 9 goals and 22 marks from his 3 games prior to Ryder not getting selected. He was in great form and didn't deserve to be dropped.

You seen anyone in the key forward ranks racking up those kind of stats for us lately?


A statement needed to be made but the club squibbed it. Gumbleton apparently 'rested' this week...


After a loss and Gumbletons worst game for the season. He was dropped. If he'd taken 10 marks and kicked 4 goals he wouldn't have been.
They didn't need to bring Ryder back because they have key forward options coming out their ears.
We... Do not.
Neither Hampson nor Kreuzer have the slightest clue how to play key forward. Basic positioning, leading, bodying, protecting space, they just have no idea. It makes me wonder about the coaching.. Are they being taught the right way and just can't execute?

Point is, if we don't play Waite, and once again bomb it long to 'key forwards' who have absolutely no idea how to play the position or take a mark, and once again waste all the possession we get, and once again lose by a small margin and slip to 3-5, we look pretty bloody stupid.

Waite's headbutt was barely that. I believe he would have got off on appeal on grounds of insufficient force to warrant a report. Yes it was silly to put himself in that position but he's done his time. At least he plays with a bit of heart and mongrel. I'd rather that than the 12+ players who were just limp on monday night.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:51 pm 
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DenimUndies wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
barass wrote:
As long as Jamo is OK, line up is good... backline nice and settled only missing Gibbs.

Waite back is a big plus... hope Rowe is selected he adds some grunt and toughness even if the polish isn't there.

Not sure I follow your thinkin' there, barass. Waite back is the single biggest minus of a selection for 2013. I'm hoping it's just a ruse and they actually play him in the twos. Then Rowe in for Waite, and Joseph, Cachia, Bell, and Menzel for the bench.


I agree... playing Waite is pi$$weak. the leadership team should have imposed another weeks ban

So u would give betts an extra week as that was much more stupid


No, but i was waiting for someone to ask me that, the 2 incidents are totally different, one was in the course of play, not dissimilar to many other bumps on a weekly basis but which resulted in head contact. the other was just a stupid almost kisslike act of stupidity with no possible value to the team either at the time that it was done or afterwards.


Waite's act was pure stupidity, but by the same toke, it was pure stupidity by the MRP to rub him out for it. It's a joke.
Copping 1 week is punishment enough. The club making it 2 weeks would serve no purpose in this case.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:52 pm 
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Still reckon Bootsma plays.

Good luck to the lad. No Gibbs - perhaps a role on Westhoff?

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:53 pm 
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Reckon White to Westoff.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bootsma plays though, I think it's out of him and AJ for the last spot.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:58 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
Anyone who suggests Waite needed to have some kind of example made of him is speaking silly talk.

He copped a week from the MRP for a silly little thing. He didn't go around the whole game belting people or sulking or sooking.

Malthouse went through him like a hot needle through butter privately.

So how about people step off a bit and stop baying for blood.

This place is like the roman Colosseum at times... people just want someone to die.


Thank you Sir!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:06 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
Anyone who suggests Waite needed to have some kind of example made of him is speaking silly talk.

He copped a week from the MRP for a silly little thing. He didn't go around the whole game belting people or sulking or sooking.

Malthouse went through him like a hot needle through butter privately.

So how about people step off a bit and stop baying for blood.

This place is like the roman Colosseum at times... people just want someone to die.



No bloody fear! What do you think this caper is about, tea and Biscuits over a game of Backgammon? I want more than someone to die, that's what promotes regrowth, but Waite isn't one of them.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:07 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
Anyone who suggests Waite needed to have some kind of example made of him is speaking silly talk.

He copped a week from the MRP for a silly little thing. He didn't go around the whole game belting people or sulking or sooking.

Malthouse went through him like a hot needle through butter privately.

So how about people step off a bit and stop baying for blood.

This place is like the roman Colosseum at times... people just want someone to die.


Thank you Sir!
The voice of reason!

Yeah, you guys are right. Waite has been a fantastic leader for the club.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:15 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?


If that's what it takes, however, I think leaving Waite out of this game will do more harm than good long term. We need to know what it means to have a player of his type in the side or we'll just accumulate more tall plodders.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:18 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?

Why not?


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm 
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Princes Park Whistler wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?

Why not?


Because the punishment given by the tribunal was appropriate

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?


If that's what it takes, however, I think leaving Waite out of this game will do more harm than good long term. We need to know what it means to have a player of his type in the side or we'll just accumulate more tall plodders.


Exactly

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:35 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:

I don't believe we've seen the last of Hampson, Warnock and Kreuzer in the same side. I expect Kreuzer to go to the backline if Jamison is out (with Simon White and Henderson).


Well, I called it back on page 6 and I just had a feeling that MM wants to make the 3 ruck thing work...

Not really excited about that fact.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:41 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Princes Park Whistler wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Maybe we should have sent Juddy back to the 2's for a couple of weeks after the month he copped for the chicken wing.
Surely that was much more stupid than Waite's little love tap.

Or maybe we should have given him a couple of weeks for the pressure point?

Why not?


Because the punishment given by the tribunal was appropriate

And that`s why we will continue to go nowhere.
Do you think there has been a high level of accountability these last 10 years?


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