I thought we did really well as a team

Yes the Final quarter onslaught was scary but we still pulled away.

When we learn to work for 100 minutes we will be awesome.

Doesn't matter we haven't got anything from our KPF experiments.
Lucas made errors but he is the speed I need in the finals, so hopefully MM plays him to our advantage because he's damn fast and has got good hands. We have ehat we have. Hughes and Co are a different issue.

Gibbs is so important to our tilt we DO NOT TRADE HIM for a CHF. He is just CLASS. I reckon he's better than Judd..hey, but thats just me this year.

We can trade a ruckman for a Dixon or Smith from the 2 new teams...they have KP's in the 2's waiting to be pinched...and better than Rowe, Casboult, Hammer, White, Mitchell, McCarthy...
If they come out of contract after 2013, 2014 or 2015 doesnt matter. Target them... just get them with a ruckman plus some.

Imagine if our KPs start working for us when Waite is back! Its going to happen...and Kreuzer will be back.

With a full team available we could have won every game this year imo, and we still have the list intact....and we can give it a tilt with MM this year....I'm not going to be surprised.

We were damn good against the Eagles and the Crows with or without NicNat and Walker.
We were very good.

Blue skies....we have turned this season on its head...and we are only going to get better

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Don't bother Bondi - It's all Stick's fault and we are going nowhere fast.

We did show a bit of poise there to find a way of kicking a few goals to finally put the game beyond doubt, which in days gone by we would have choked, but the 100 minute thing is something we have to work very hard at, and we really need to do it against Melbourne next week.

I think we are all fed up with being the team that all the struggling teams know that if they have real hard crack at then they are half a chance at pulling off their upset win of the season.

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I think you've got me wrong. I live Robbo and pretty much everything he does. One of my first picked every week. I was simply pointing out a slight flaw in his game. I understand when it's a quick kick out of a pack, but I still think there's occasions when he has a bit more time and still just kicks the ball as hard as he can. A big part of the reason our tall forwards are struggling is because we don't kick to advantage enough. I'm not talking about a speared pass to a lead, just kick it so the forward can protect the space

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The knock on Sugar as a kid was his kicking...

As for the last three, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't share your optimism...

I guess Barker get any credit for the efforts of the mosquito fleet in the last two weeks.

It's a deficiency that would play out a lot less if we had a genuine KPF.
Robbo typically takes possession in spaces under intense pressure (real or imagined) where %'s would say a quick kick forward is the best option. It can be frustrating, but the fact that that no one attacks the ball on the end of it isn't entirely his fault.
It's almost like he's playing he plays the MM game plan without an MM list to back it up.

jake why not try quoting the entire post?? to get a quality kp need to trade quality

Perhaps, but does that owe more to Yarran being moved back forward (a MM move) and Garlett's personal improvement from last year? Can't really say.

But what I can say is that our gameplan so far doesn't seem to have changed from the last couple of years (bomb it long, and if no mark, hope crumbers get it in space). It's working for us right now, but it's also worked for us (and been countered by the better teams, leaving us ineffectual) before. That we still haven't devised an efffective alternative strategy is pretty poor.

In fairness to Barker though, is he the one who tells our midfield to deliver the ball that way, or does he only work with the guys in the F50? Either way though, something has to change.

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wasn't overly wrapped in Lucas in the Richmond R1 game, the pissy little handballs drove me nuts, has improved progressively since R1 despite some frustrating moments. am more dissatisfied with Simpson,

what the faaaaark has happend to Kade Simpson?

..i agree, except it's rare to trade a quality mid and get a quality KPF in return.. ..i doubt the KPF would be as good a player as Gibbs is.. ..and more to the point, you don't trade out quality when you're light on for quality in the first place.. ..trading Gibbs for an average KPF [won't get top quality] is a move backwards..

..i think if we try and trade/buy in a KPF,, then we're just reverting back to old bad habits in list management.. ..we've buggered our drafting in regards to kpp's, we need to accept this, swallow our medicine and move on.. ..buying in or trading in a star KPF will be counter-productive for our current list..

..we are not a hardened repeat top 4 side looking for the missing piece of the puzzle..

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Disappointed in last quarter in particular - should have won by more and shouldnt have been panic in last quarter but good win nevertheless - still need to play 4 quarters
obviously very ordinary performance from tall forwards -hampson almost his worst game -thought big knockers played well -mclean bog and walker another good game

Jeffy really has stepped up this year and yarran great but wont win against good teams if tall forwards cant make contribution
As for those who dont think it was good because walker went down it is about time we had a bit of luck This time last year they thrashed us murphy got injured early in the game and danger was bog - this year walker goes down early -danger well held by Army - blues win - didnt gibbs leave the match about half way through and betts who we probably only wanted to play half a quarter played 2 - at start of match and even 3 weeks ago we would take a 32 point win in this match
I was one of the naysayers after 3 rounds without a win but can see development of the side and the draw does open up for us in the next few weeks - good win when murphy judd and gibbs bit players and we got nothing from our tall forwards

As for lucas gee we try to eat our own -think he is coming on ok - needs to fine tune decision making and toughness at contest when he hasnt got the ball BUT graitutous attacks on him in here unbelievable - needs to get lots of game time - good pace - good spread - worth keeping in the team to develop and enhance skills on decision making and physicality

Pretty sure in a long, long time ago in a Carlton forum far, far away, Synbad potted the following players as hacks who should be discarded, when they were younger and less experienced...

Kade Simpson
Andrew Carrazzo
Andrew Walker
Ed Curnow
Bryce Gibbs
Lachie Henderson
Chris Yarran

Because those guys are not as pottable anymore, new targets have to be found. Step up, Lucas and Watson, it's your turn.

Next year it'll probably be Menzel after his second game in which he didn't put on a 3 vote performance. Rubbish, should never have drafted him.

Kade Simpson actually had a solid game on the weekend. More akin to what is expected of him.

Hopefully it's just a slow start to the season for the guy.

Jeez I don't know about that. The bloke makes some magical hindsight calls and olympic standard backflips but I am almost positive that he was calling for Walker to be drafted as our #2 from very early on and was a pretty solid supporter of Yarran as well.

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I'm fairly certain Synbad wanted Brock McLean in 2003. Though he'll never admit it now that we've got both.

See I'm fairly certain he was adamant about Walker (and the dispute was with people who wanted Sylvia wasn't it?)

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not sure if this has been bought up but AFL.Com.AU saying Gibbs to miss a week with a hammy

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how come the opposition fwd line is always open . fwds leading or 1on1 and ours is congested forming packs where our opponents start there attack from. we have to change game plan .