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Hornet
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:31 pm 
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Lucas shits me to no end atm but I think he can turn it around... he's young enough

Need to work on his confidence... looks to me like he always feels rushed to dispose of the ball... he's not alone there

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Take it to the Kane Lucas thread lads..

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some of our players have no idea how to kick/handball to the advantage of their team mate either
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Rexy wrote:
some of our players have no idea how to kick/handball to the advantage of their team mate either


Yesterday I saw a GWS player handball straight into his teammate's back. :lol:
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rotten
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I think you need to watch the game live to see how important Lucas has become to the team - his hard running to space is critical, often last night he was the outlet that the defense looked for to setup play. In many ways he has taken over the role that Simmo used to play.

His weaknesses are obvious, soft under intense pressure, poor tackler and occasionally a poor kick (he is good at times as well).

On balance though, he has added a lot this year to the team and will only get better as his confidence improves.
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sablueboy wrote:
Odd thing is the club is saying their premiership tilt is done now but the supporters are in disagreement and are calling on Paddy and Co. To step up


Do you have a link to substantiate this comment?

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As much as I love Robbo, it drives me crazy when he's kicking into the forward line sometimes. He seems to just kick it as hard as he can. Often our forward will be in front and he bangs it over their head so they have to back into their opponent. Not kicking to team mates advantage. He's not alone there but it really stands out when he does it

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Synbad wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Ill take Yarrans effectiveness 100% of the time over Lucas Mr Cazz.
Lucas has too much going against him.
Soft, cant kick, cant tackle and has terrible smarts.
He can run and has endurance... ts the only reason hes in ...
Cos if youre looking in the reserves... the Bullants midfield is Markon / Lambert/Cachia etc.With Ellard.. who actually idnt spend alot of time there.

What IS in our reserves is a bunch of half back flanker types... and we dont need them atm..

Laidler
Duigan
Dale played there last week.
Bootsma
McArthy
Watto
Joseph joins their bulging ranks this week.
McIness is out with a knee

Its why Lucas is in the side...!!!
Yarran is in the side because he is electric.. its why you shouldnt point to stats at every chance


And you shouldn't write off players as easily as you do. And yet you continue to do so. Lucas will continue to improve under MM and I have little doubt will be 150+ game player so you might have to get use to him. I know you are just after a whipping boy for 2013.

I have no idea what the list of HBF's and VFL onballers has to do with Lucas.

Regards Cazzesman



Lucas is a fourth year player picked in the mid first round Mr Cazz
And yet his deficiencies are glaring.

The only way he will play 150 games is if we continue drafting hbfer types who are kicking dew off the grass at Cramer street.
Thats what he has to do with it all.. if we didnt have a team of hbfers in the ressies and we had been taking mids.. wed have an option to leave out Lucas atm... but if you go along to the reserves... youd find Preston players dominating the midfield in our reserves.
And cos we dont have options... Lucas stays....
Thats how Lucas is linked with our overabundance of average hbfers in the ressies.... its a very clear line... !!(I thought it was obvious)
Lucas would struggle to make the side in any of the other teams in the eight...


Yeah, Nah the only obvious thing is your need for a whipping boy. Sadly it's in your nature.

You'd rather denigrate that encourage. That's okay we all get it.

I'm not 100% sure your opinion about who would or wouldn't get into any of the top 8 sides counts for much in the grand scheme of things.

Regards Cazzesman



Oh so if our club could get that pick back again.. they would go BAANG!!!! LUCAS PLEASE!!!!??????

Hes a !@#$%& up!!!... another Wayne Hughes special!!!
Lets forget a bout his soft side for a minute...
He cant kick...!!!... is there any excuse to have a pick this early and use it on a guy who kicks so many floaters???

I mean you have the whole draft except the first few and you use it on a guy who shirks contests and cant kick..
Then the next draft you choose a guy who can kick but cant touch his toes.

Is that what a recruiter gets paid to look for???

Oh and then there is the 20 hbfers were stuck with ....
Of course we should be angry!!!

We have a herd of sacred cows at this club.. players.. captains.. CEOs .. recruiters.. administrators.. coaches...
Lucas is a 4th year player... not whipping boy... because he is now a man!!!.... But if you call him a boy.... and he thinks hes a boy... and he gets treated like a boy.. well there is the other half of our problem!!!... Right???

Tell me when does Lucas become a man???....

Its laughable!!!

Synners, players improve with experience - it's that simple. Brock was awful in his first handful of games for us - he's now confident, composed and clean with his disposal. There are countless examples around the league of this. Kane will improve.
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Bigredisback wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
A win is a win ... but not impressed. Adelaide were unlucky with injuries. Our entry into the forward line was crap ... back to the big bomb. A better team than Adelaide (for example Sydney, Hawthorn) would have beat us easily. Until we find a couple of tall marking forwards that can consistently take a grab ... please spare us this crap.
Some good individual performances helped. Happy to win ... but it won't cut the mustard against good teams.

Out entry was crap but guess what broke 100 again


I wouldn't blame the actually entry too much. Watching live everytime we went forward the two key targets barely moved or went to the wrong spots. A lot of the blame must go to them.

A good smart forward will always draw the ball to the right spots.

Even a guy like Andy Ottens can do that... if he has half a brain and is willing to work hard and lead


:clap: Yes! :clap:

I thought that highlighted how much difference a smart forward who can lead to the right spaces makes. Massive difference.



If only he could kick straight.



Good points and our tall forwards had shockers but i think Ottens was assisted by the fact that the Crows had no real small forwards so they had to isolate him making it a bit easier for him than what i talls had to deal with with our current plans that involve having lightning quick rovers (and opponents) close by to our talls making their work a little harder.

We did score more than them so our style has its advantage. Would be great if we could get 3 or 4 goals from talls a game to keep the opposition guessing.
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jake_h03 wrote:
As much as I love Robbo, it drives me crazy when he's kicking into the forward line sometimes. He seems to just kick it as hard as he can. Often our forward will be in front and he bangs it over their head so they have to back into their opponent. Not kicking to team mates advantage. He's not alone there but it really stands out when he does it


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: he is our head bomb into the forward line playa
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sandramd1967
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still desperate for a key forward thats what the last 2 games have proved, trade gibbs or hampson for one
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still desperate for a key forward thats what the last 2 games have proved, trade gibbs or hampson for one


Apart from two marks that Rowe probably should have taken, I don't think it would have mattered who played as KPF's.

You'd be wasting any trade if that is going to be the way we deliver. Maybe Trav could have done well, but plenty of other KPF would have looked second rate.

Contrast that to the delivery and set up of the Adelaide forward line. Open, drilled kicks and kicking into space where forwards can hit the ball at full speed.

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IMO Lucas played well, as did Robbo.....there's heaps of teams who'd kill to have Robbo in their side.

I'm very pleased with our progress; it was never going to happen overnight.

If posters are that desperately unhappy with the side's progress; why aren't they trying to get into a position where they may end up on the Board?

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Trigger
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Is walker from adl out of contract,he is the one
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dooky wrote:
Thought Simon White was serviceable. Puts his body on the line and can take a grab. Certainly not in the Davies and Joseph category like some around here would have you believe. Needs an injury free run.



Agree, thought White looked quite solid. Streets ahead of Davies.

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Synbad
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Cazzesman wrote:
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Youre comparisons are ridiculous.....Dont compare Yarran with Lucas
Yarran has teams working on how to shut him down every week... opposition coaches wouldnt ever worry a bout Lucas


Were Coaches working on Yarran in his first 23 games?

Regards Cazzesman

Lucas is in the system for FOUR flower YEARS!!!... opp coaches wouldnt give a toss about Lucas.
Tell is Cazzesman.. as a man who is employed by the CFC in the department of recruiting (IE life blood of a footy clu b).. are you guys satisfied with Lucas and where he is at?

Answer that as a yes or no please...!!!

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Synbad
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Oh and once you answer on Lucas give us our answer on Watson!!!
thats 2 first round picks... lets not worry about the others...for now!!!

Is this the kind of standard the Carlton football club is searching country wide with first round picks???

Answer me that... and im happy to jumping off this debate...!!!...(I might move on to the judgement of the recruiting dept.. but ill jump off Lucas)

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Lucas looked good.

Has his limitations, but so does Didak.

Appears to have MM support. Probably all that matters at this point.

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Synbad
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Lets just cut to the chase on our recruiting.

Is the club and the recruiting dept happy with what we have managed to fossick with Lucas and Watson from the flower draft????
Are they happy with their commitment to improve???

And again... before i piss myself laughing.. stop comparing Lucas to Yarran... Yarran might have him covered ..................just!!!
Just ask any opp coach... how much time they put into Lucas every match..

Over to you!!!

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Synbad wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ill take Yarrans effectiveness 100% of the time over Lucas Mr Cazz.
Lucas has too much going against him.
Soft, cant kick, cant tackle and has terrible smarts.
He can run and has endurance... ts the only reason hes in ...
Cos if youre looking in the reserves... the Bullants midfield is Markon / Lambert/Cachia etc.With Ellard.. who actually idnt spend alot of time there.

What IS in our reserves is a bunch of half back flanker types... and we dont need them atm..

Laidler
Duigan
Dale played there last week.
Bootsma
McArthy
Watto
Joseph joins their bulging ranks this week.
McIness is out with a knee

Its why Lucas is in the side...!!!
Yarran is in the side because he is electric.. its why you shouldnt point to stats at every chance


And you shouldn't write off players as easily as you do. And yet you continue to do so. Lucas will continue to improve under MM and I have little doubt will be 150+ game player so you might have to get use to him. I know you are just after a whipping boy for 2013.

I have no idea what the list of HBF's and VFL onballers has to do with Lucas.

Regards Cazzesman



Lucas is a fourth year player picked in the mid first round Mr Cazz
And yet his deficiencies are glaring.

The only way he will play 150 games is if we continue drafting hbfer types who are kicking dew off the grass at Cramer street.
Thats what he has to do with it all.. if we didnt have a team of hbfers in the ressies and we had been taking mids.. wed have an option to leave out Lucas atm... but if you go along to the reserves... youd find Preston players dominating the midfield in our reserves.
And cos we dont have options... Lucas stays....
Thats how Lucas is linked with our overabundance of average hbfers in the ressies.... its a very clear line... !!(I thought it was obvious)
Lucas would struggle to make the side in any of the other teams in the eight...


Lucas 2013 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lucas 2010-2012
That's what's glaring Synbad
You of all people should know why - you've told us about it ad nauseum for the last few years (and I have totally agreed with you on it)

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