Wasnt that the guess for his previous contract ?

We can still trade him. He will consent if told he is not part of the plans.

Might not be him that goes. Could be Hampson. We have one too many Rucks on decent contracts. One too many small forwards on decent money now with Yaz playing forward (with Buckley lurking). We can offload an aging mid. We can play without Jamo ( i think he gets injured too much).

All those could have been shopped around hard last trade period. Picks or players similar on less with tougher attitudes. Nothing against those players but a new mix would have been nice.

It will all happen at the end of this year. A year too late in my eyes.

Don't you think the club shopped our players last year. The rucks were definitely shopped and we were offered picks in the 40s.

Didnt we close up shop after day one or two ?

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#GUILTY

Another 360 another whack from Robbo.

Inject players with pig bits = inspirational leader

Make a measured statement about process = bull dust artist.

Who's our media person?

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Robbo's just trolling us in true KB fashion lol

3 number 1 picks and the best player in the competition.
Some of our core players are now long in the tooth.

Oh and this might come as a surprise to some of you.......

The competition has not been laying down and acting all passive for us to improve.
Clubs have been getting better...
Who have we injected into our team to improve us?
Watson? Lucas?

We havent recruited well or deveoped well

The competition has moved forward .. we were jogging on the Judd spot... hes not the player he was 3 seasons ago

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Yes ladies and gentlemen.. whilst we were sleeping others were working hard.
So some of you compare us to where we were three years ago etc.

Its a different world ... you sleep... when you wake up youll weep !!!

i find it amusing that some of you think just cos our results were ok a couple of years ago... it automatically means we should be doing better today.

Where the @#$%&! has our planning been?
Whos pushing through for Judd.Carrazzo. Scotland. Simpson. Waite etc?

Which picks from the last three drafts are pushing through?
Yes we lost Kennedy.. Russell.. Austin.. Harlteltt. Grigg... Lucas and Watson arent performing.

How do you blokes think this list was going to move forward????

Eh???
We cant even find a worthy captain... we dont have leadership going on... our idea of leadership was to vote Murph captain???
Hate to say this but hes a bust captain.. so what next??... how do we move the captaincy to someone else now???(assuming there is someone)...

Someone's nose is either gunna get out of joint.. or we wont have a viable captain...

Thats what we have been doing for the last 5 seasons..... nothing much...
Pick after pick on hbfer types.....peripherals i like to call em....

And you guys think this is an easy task??...
Last year Carrazzo got injured and we couldnt play footy..... Think about it ... Carrazzo injured the house comes down...!!!
thats what we have achieved.... that and ONE ELIMINATIONAL finals win ...

our window.... one elim finals win...
ooooooooooOOOOoooOOOooooo AaaaaaAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaa

This is a bigger task than some of you people think.....

Lets start wth some leadership .... we havent had that in over a decade.... Ratten developed ZIP!!!....
No clue Ratten... no clue club....

So you better get behind this guy instead of crying about some early games lost... we were on the sids already... !!!

no leadership
an out of balance list
an aging midfield... and replaced by rookies.. Bell Curnow Ellard... Oh wow!!!!

and a club that acieved nothing in a time vacuum where clubs were all restructuring.. unfortunately for us.. alot of clubs restructured better....

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Bit tired of this sitting on the fence bullshit.

What do you really think?

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I think we have been sleeping.
We have no planned and we will be punished.

I think people pointing to the WC final are deluded.
WC were the wooden spooner from the previous year.

Clubs have been using their time to restructure more wisely than us....

Except Melbourne .... they have been worse than us.

But we took Ratts from Melbourne... Reilly from Melbourne.. and the very highly regarded Prendergast from MElbourne..Plus Brad Green from Melbourne... wouldnt be surprised if we raid their free agents this year....

I think this club is fupped in the head!!!.. and has no clue... and unfortunately alot of our supporters are happy enough to follow the blind men who have been leading this club.... amateur city . Mayor is Sticks and his deputies was Ratten and Hughes

thats what i think!!!

I wanna know..... what new blood have we coming in to inject success into this team????

the half back flankers we were busy assembling were gunna do that????

Shits me no end.....

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I don't want to agree with what you say Synbad but it seems theres credence in your premise.
That's a nice way to put it.

Lets just hope MM can turn it around quickly for a flag.
It aint going to be easy. He's got 3 years.

MM, hopefully is identifying who will and who wont make it...he told Scotland he wasn't going to be picked as a midfielder ahead of the types on the Pies list,,,and he went on and won a flag for the Pies (albeit 6 years later) and Scotto was our star HBF.



I still believe he's going to rattle some spunk from some of the introverts and those quality of players will also have a quality spirit instilled in them and never say die attitude...well I'm hoping, but I believe we have a lot of talent but we need to get more of something out of most of the individuals.

Then we have to get rid of this individuality and player for each other.
MM is our only hope right now.

I believe he'll work on turning this around this year let alone turn the list over at the end of the season if they don't have what we need.

If we win our last 7 in a row and make the 8, we might give the flag a shake (ala Hawks 2007), and then comes the trade period.

I'm sure we have players targeted already to get on board.
I'm sure some of their managers know about that too.
I'm sure we'll have room in our cap to target some talent to fill gaps.
I'm sure we will trade out players and get less than we hoped for, but we will make room.

I'm sure we all want a MM-CFC flag within 3 years, including MM.
I'm sure we will do whatever we have to do to make things happen.
There's no guarantees, and we do need a bit of luck.

AS long as we become a Flag contender year after year again during and after MM's reign I will be a happy man.

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Chances are we wont be seeing flags again.....

18 team competition... and its now not just the clubs with the money that are putting daylight between themselves and say the Melbournes and Carltons of this comp... but teams that create a culture of excellence and brains.

Noone can tell me we have been breeding a culture of excellence at Carlton....
We dont have leaders on or off field

Murphy and Sticks?
Really???



Cant find anyone else??

Thats it??... and were talking flags???

GTFOHMFs!!!!

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Give Marc a go Synners.
Its only 3 games in.

The biggest complaint I've heard regarding Marcs captaincy recently is that his team mates dont support him or Judd or anyone from snipers, and that's not his doing, and he needs to get defensively tighter.

We need a plethora of leaders on every line. Its not just about one individual so you should take the target off him.

As for Sticks and brains trust...that's an offfield issue most agree where we have to improve. Its OK to put the target on them because they have a lot to answer for....Marc doesn't.

Give the kid a break and hope his team mates all improve 5% to take the heat off him...remember its a team game....Marc Murphy is all right in my book, he didn't build the list and he has a lot more respect from the footy community than you're giving him right now.

on Fox Insider they did highlight his defensive mistakes but they didn't hang him because there was a lot of luck involved in the 3 Hunt goals,,,shit happens....he can do something about that, and so can his team mates...collective defense will happen if MM can develop.

So IMO the ball is in the court of all those off field to fix things up.


...and when we do, because MM will improve us, we have just as much chance as anyone to win a flag thereafter...yes it will be more difficult than the past, but other teams will not continue to improve whilst we are improving...ebbs and flows.

Our club is alive and improving...we just need better management, more ruthless coaches/list managers and a bit of luck.

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Murphy from the outside doesnt have a clue what a leader is.
Poor choice and thats a reflection on the players who believe he was best suited.
Better would have been to allow him to focus on playing.....

I cant believe how stupid this club is.
I bet Murphy wuldnt have been Malthouses choice...... actually id bet my bottom dollar he wouldnat have been.

Murph would be an ok captain if we had a gaggle of leaders around him....but we dont so he is a poor choice.!!!..

Seriously... we remind me of clubs like the Roy Boys Richmond and Melbourne.
Powerhouses in their day and just fell away to oblivion or almost oblivion......

There are always others more ambitious than you... working harder than you to moce ahead of you if youre lazy and clueless...

Its whats happenig to us now.

Where would be on a ladder of competence???
and where are we now on a laddder of clubs???
Middle and falling...

And yet... Sticks is the best man for the job.. and we will move out of the way if someone better comes along....
We have our very own King Midas... except this one doesnt ake things turn to gold when he touches them.. Sticks touching stuff makes them turn to stench and shit!!!

Again says alot about the people around him... happy enough to keep the status quo to feel safe in their 13 man board.. with 2 vice presidents and 2 members from one family....

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Still doesn't explain why Malthouse only wanted to go to club that didnt need a rebuild (chose carlton), a list on the cusp (chose carlton), no trading, happy with the list and if the stars align it could well be flag time !

Give so-and-so a go, give blah-blah more time, such-and-such is only 21, he can't be expected to be a KP at AFL level...
The excuses and leniency for our players and club has seen us become also-rans and a permanent fixture in mid-table mediocrity.

As Mr Incredible said - "They keep creating new ways to celebrate mediocrity"

That's CFC these days...

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doesnt matter... he gets paid well.... and he will improve the planning and the structures.

but the bottom line is we wasted yearssssssssssssss

Judds an old man in fooballing terms...

ask yourself this.

Right now... Judd or Kennedy..???.. Forget about Judd or kennedy plus masten

5 years with the wonder coach ratts eh???



we gave Brett 'Norwood' Ratten a six year and six game contract to coach this great club and allowed him in chaarge for over 5 years... We did that!!!.... Brett Ratten...rubber stamped by Stephen 'Sticks' Kernahan... another guy all other clubs wished he was president of their club.
That would take the shine away from any new ball.....

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I think Jamo was high up there on MM's radar to lead. He does prefer defenders as captain as they tend to do the team orientated things & lead by example/get hands dirty.

Murphy's just another bloke in a long line of them who Carlton never question, never put the hard word on, or expect anything from. Judd, Fev, Whitnall, Kouta etc. etc.

As long as he's great with the kids, who cares how little defensive pressure he applies, or that he can't put two words together at a press conference, or his goalkicking, or ability to perform in crunch games, or that he can't back up his grandiose statements on field?

Should have sent him to Melbourne last year

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

..from what i thought, you only needed their consent if it was in the same year that they signed the contract....the dollars and length would need to be managed, which gives him a certain amount of leverage in return.. ..but if he's not getting much senior footy, he'll be open to a trade i would think.. ..i dont think he views himself as ruck depth..

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