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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:16 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..i think the expectation that we're a top 4 worthy side is a bit hopeful.. ..list issues, and bad in-game habits were there for everyone to see, and still are.. ..it's quite possible that our 2011 season was more about the competition for that year, in regards to there being 10 teams that year that were well off the competitive edge..


The most encouraging thing is that, come season's end and whatever position we finish, there should be enough for Malthouse to make the tough calls and shape the team into his third premiership club.

I pray everyone has a bit of patience. I think the good results are on their way, and by mid-year we could roll a few of the better teams.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:23 am 
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teknodeejay wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..i think the expectation that we're a top 4 worthy side is a bit hopeful.. ..list issues, and bad in-game habits were there for everyone to see, and still are.. ..it's quite possible that our 2011 season was more about the competition for that year, in regards to there being 10 teams that year that were well off the competitive edge..


The most encouraging thing is that, come season's end and whatever position we finish, there should be enough for Malthouse to make the tough calls and shape the team into his third premiership club.

I pray everyone has a bit of patience. I think the good results are on their way, and by mid-year we could roll a few of the better teams.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:28 am 
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Kahuna I reckon if we had one of those 3 games I wouldnt be so bellicose but run into an open goal and miss and lose to Richmond when they shat themselves and really didnt know how to win - be 36 points down at haf time against richmond - giving away a couple of 50 metre penalties just when we are trying to work our way back in third -screams underperformance - -10 points up at three quarter time on the bush and lose and an opportunity late in third to go up further than 10 points and then let the 7 goals to 3 in last quarter and get run over -connotes underperformance -
Not playing 4 quarters of football in any game this year connotes underperformance - three games where opposition scores more than 100 points against you connotes underperformance


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:32 am 
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Kahuna I reckon if we had one of those 3 games I wouldnt be so bellicose but run into an open goal and miss and lose to Richmond when they shat themselves and really didnt know how to win - be 36 points down at haf time against richmond - giving away a couple of 50 metre penalties just when we are trying to work our way back in third -screams underperformance - -10 points up at three quarter time on the bush and lose and an opportunity late in third to go up further than 10 points and then let the 7 goals to 3 in last quarter and get run over -connotes underperformance -
Not playing 4 quarters of football in any game this year connotes underperformance - three games where opposition scores more than 100 points against you connotes underperformance


..i agree it would, if we were a fair amount better.. ..but i'm saying that perhaps we are not.. ..and we're performing at about what level we should be [currently].. ..as distasteful as that truth may be [if correct]..

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:32 am 
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How is Mick going to turn Tom Bell into Anthony Koutafides? 99.9% of our supporters are convinced that he is going to be the next kouta on the back of wins against an injury depleted ESSENDOOM side and the western bulldogs. I just can't see it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:38 am 
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teknodeejay wrote:
The biggest problem with being 0-3 is that the three teams we gave 4 points each to are the same teams we need 4 points from to bea above them come finals times.

I have a feeling that being unable to take the points particularly against Richmond are going to bite us in the rear.

It's a long season. We could go 19-0 from here. But most likely we will be around 12-15 wins this season, depending on how some of the reverse fixtures occur. Simply, the next time we play Richmond and both times we play the Peptides we must win, as well as all other games outside of this week, Hawthorn, Sydney and Collingwood again. That gives you a 15-8 win which puts us in pole position for finals. The Richmond loss is going to hurt the most I feel.

We can't afford to stink it up particularly against team like North Melbourne like we did last year.


Good points there Tkdjay, The Richmond loss is also the one that shiats me most, mainly because I don't believe they're as good as is being made out at the mo ( yeah theyre better than they were last year but not true contenders imo).. I reckon if we were playing them this week rather than 1st round we'd beat them. I may end up having to eat these words in the next few wks, they seem playing a similar type of game as we did last year, adopting a high possession and + 1 behind the play to sweep up, ok so their 0-3 but lets see how they go in next few weeks. I expect they'll end up dropping a few unexpected ones which may negate the effect of our loss to them.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:43 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..i think the expectation that we're a top 4 worthy side is a bit hopeful.. ..list issues, and bad in-game habits were there for everyone to see, and still are.. ..it's quite possible that our 2011 season was more about the competition for that year, in regards to there being 10 teams that year that were well off the competitive edge..


The most encouraging thing is that, come season's end and whatever position we finish, there should be enough for Malthouse to make the tough calls and shape the team into his third premiership club.

I pray everyone has a bit of patience. I think the good results are on their way, and by mid-year we could roll a few of the better teams.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:59 am 
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teknodeejay wrote:
both times we play the Peptides we must win



BTW I see the peptides as a bigger threat that the tiges


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:15 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Not making definitive judgment - dont like being 0-3 and possibly 0-4 after the weekend and being 15th or 16th on the ladder- hard draw or not we know early wins make it easier to make the finals and we know this team however coached or mentored struggles to string along a number of winning games so like your thought of 6/6 but last few years performances dont suggest we will get that consistency and achieve the result

Happy to assess at the end of the year but if we dont make the finals it will be a fail for this year simple as that - the coach and the players will have to wear the backlash if we dont - so will the administration in that we were hamstrung in the trade period last year with salary cap and signed up people like joseph and davies on longer term contracts Not sure if warnock is going to play this week but if he is not why on earth didnt we trade him last year for early draft picks or a gun young player .Given we have used 28 players already and kreuz and hampson have both been injured and big knockers cant get a game why is he still there

Im backing MM over the longer term because of his outstanding record but at the moment at this very early stage its not going so well - do like that he has tried 28 players already but that also goes to the fact that apart from Jamo and walker we have not had any consistency in performance across the team


I'm with you frank, but the highlighted parts are a bit contradictory.

Basicly I'm not sure we tried too hard to trade our way out of any salary cap tightness last year.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:16 pm 
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If elected I will definitely weed out the contemptuous old policies and bumbling effort of the previous hierarchy and restore this great nation to the respectable and fearsome heights it so previously held in the world standings.
Thank you for this honour and I will truly restore respect and success back in this once great nation, but now that we have all the facts in front of us we realize that things are a bit more complex and diabolical than we were first led to believed and everything from policies to personnel will be reviewed and acted upon with due diligent.
We will unfortunately feel some short term reforms that will affect the community but in the long run the benefits outweigh and outstrip the ill effects of these previous decisions and lack of foresight.
All I’m asking for is some patience because I can’t poach any good assistants and have run out of ideas myself so I need time to suck as much as I can out of you for my retirement fund because this was the sweetest and most unaccountable position I was offered and could find.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:24 pm 
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Notice Mick is talking about process in the face of being 0-4 down today


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 pm 
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redback wrote:
If elected I will definitely weed out the contemptuous old policies and bumbling effort of the previous hierarchy and restore this great nation to the respectable and fearsome heights it so previously held in the world standings.
Thank you for this honour and I will truly restore respect and success back in this once great nation, but now that we have all the facts in front of us we realize that things are a bit more complex and diabolical than we were first led to believed and everything from policies to personnel will be reviewed and acted upon with due diligent.
We will unfortunately feel some short term reforms that will affect the community but in the long run the benefits outweigh and outstrip the ill effects of these previous decisions and lack of foresight.
All I’m asking for is some patience because I can’t poach any good assistants and have run out of ideas myself so I need time to suck as much as I can out of you for my retirement fund because this was the sweetest and most unaccountable position I was offered and could find.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:28 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Notice Mick is talking about process in the face of being 0-4 down today


Process is, always has, and always will be the ONLY thing that you can control.. no one ever controls the result..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:39 pm 
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..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:28 pm 
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DenimUndies wrote:
redback wrote:
If elected I will definitely weed out the contemptuous old policies and bumbling effort of the previous hierarchy and restore this great nation to the respectable and fearsome heights it so previously held in the world standings.
Thank you for this honour and I will truly restore respect and success back in this once great nation, but now that we have all the facts in front of us we realize that things are a bit more complex and diabolical than we were first led to believed and everything from policies to personnel will be reviewed and acted upon with due diligent.
We will unfortunately feel some short term reforms that will affect the community but in the long run the benefits outweigh and outstrip the ill effects of these previous decisions and lack of foresight.
All I’m asking for is some patience because I can’t poach any good assistants and have run out of ideas myself so I need time to suck as much as I can out of you for my retirement fund because this was the sweetest and most unaccountable position I was offered and could find.

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Hi Julia :smoking:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:46 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..



Trade Warnock without his consent? He's signed until the end of 2015. We'll need every bit of his consent. On his $$$$ it'll cost us financially to trade him. Doubt anyone else will pay what we're paying him.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:47 pm 
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jim wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..



Trade Warnock without his consent? He's signed until the end of 2015. We'll need every bit of his consent. On his $$$$ it'll cost us financially to trade him.


Are you privy to his $$$$. If so, please share them with us.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:49 pm 
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woof wrote:
jim wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..



Trade Warnock without his consent? He's signed until the end of 2015. We'll need every bit of his consent. On his $$$$ it'll cost us financially to trade him.


Are you privy to his $$$$. If so, please share them with us.
We know he's on roundabout 400k. Thought everyone knew that. With a contract to the end of 2015 it's unlikely he'll get traded.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:53 pm 
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jim wrote:
woof wrote:
jim wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..



Trade Warnock without his consent? He's signed until the end of 2015. We'll need every bit of his consent. On his $$$$ it'll cost us financially to trade him.


Are you privy to his $$$$. If so, please share them with us.
We know he's on roundabout 400k. Thought everyone knew that. With a contract to the end of 2015 it's unlikely he'll get traded.


In other words you don't have a clue.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:59 pm 
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woof wrote:
jim wrote:
woof wrote:
jim wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..it will be interesting to see how Knockers is used this season.. ..we'll be able to trade him, without his consent now.. ..if Hampson is used primarily as fwd/ruck, then i can see some possible situation where he remains on the list, however i firmly believe that unless his overall game improves significantly, then Krooz has his name stamped all over 1st ruck, and Knockers becomes back-up.. ..since Krooz [even including the acl] is the most durable of our 3 main rucks, i doubt that Knockers will be happy playing games in the ressies when he's fit, and he himself may seek a trade..

..if Hampson is played as 1st ruck before Knockers, and we know rowe and levi can play ruck/fwd role,, then i think Knockers will be looking for his 3rd club.. ..i also think we may be able to facilitate a win-win trade with Knockers..



Trade Warnock without his consent? He's signed until the end of 2015. We'll need every bit of his consent. On his $$$$ it'll cost us financially to trade him.


Are you privy to his $$$$. If so, please share them with us.
We know he's on roundabout 400k. Thought everyone knew that. With a contract to the end of 2015 it's unlikely he'll get traded.


In other words you don't have a clue.


Yes, I have a good idea unlike YOU, who's seems would never have a clue about much.

He was on 400k on his first contract and would be unlikely that he had a pay cut. Simple enough for you or do we need it spelt out in crayon. Sorry fella, simply hoping doesn't change things.


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