..more likely that if Menzel gets games, he'd be coming on off the bench, and not neccessarily be a starting HF.. ..do like Hendo at CHF.. ..i'd like Gibbs to start on the HF line, vs starting wing..

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Menzel is a walk up start to start me thinks.

Anyway... our best 22 is going to look very different .... MM teams are very midfield centric.

So the players that will be able to go through there will have a leg up..... and you will need a best 28 or so.... then best 35 etc

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Probables:

B: Armfield Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Watson Duigan
C: Gibbs Carrazzo Simpson
HF: Robinson Henderson Menzel
F: Betts Casboult Waite
Foll: Kruezer Judd Murphy
Int: Bell McLean Touhy Walker


Possibles:

B: Temay White Davies
HB: Collins McCarthy OKeefe
C: Scotland Cachia Bootsma
HF: Garlett Rowe Dale
F: Hampson Mitchell Buckley
Foll: Warnock Curnow Ellard
Int: Graham AJ

McInnes (inj)


Stay fit and there is some real depth especially through the midfield. Realistically anyone on this list can be a regular senior player.

Will be good to see players having to earn spots.

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I think that could just about be it, Psych. Barring injury and likely Scotland suspension from early games. Hampson/Casboult & Garlett/Menzel battle depending on how Menzel steps up at training/NAB.

my thoughts,
laidler jamison watson
scotland henderson tuohy
simpson carrazzo yarran
robinson waite gibbs
betts mitchell walker
kreuzer judd murphy
i/c; lucas menzel hampson
sub; armfield/bell/duigan/bootsma/garlett/curnow/mclean

the good thing about the squad now is it has great depth.
lucas- to take the next step, getting regular game time across half forward, not 5 games as sub.
watson- also to get a regular game, can play on the third tall, gain experience, may release hendo forward when waite goes down.
mitchell- for me, big preseason, ready to go, and yes we need another option up forward, can mark, break packs, and can kick.
menzel- big call, but the kid can play, watched him play twice in the champs, gee whiz, may allow walker to spend time in the midfield.
scotland- to play the QB role with tuohy- playing the small defensive role.
hampson- gets the nod ahead of warnock, simple fact, he is mobile, can go forward and hit the scoreboard.
the good thing about depth, blokes are no longer a walk up start.
remember this is just my opinion, just a spud who loves the club.

That's a lot of 'Goals Against' right there...

Surely, one of the only guys on the list that has proven he can take a mark, casboult must be ahead of Mitchell?

Simon White will play every game if he stays fit
He is a very good footballer

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Certainly getting talked up by the coaches , may play forward maybe

I like White also and the CFC love Whitey, but where does he fit in and at whose expense?

He's at that mid size, very strong but not overly quick.
He may well be training the house down right now, but I just can't find an immediate home for him. Maybe MM can, though.

He came in rd4 2009 and made an instant impact he was flying until he got injured 6 games later against the Hawks

I think he is better if not just as good as Laidler but he can play forward as well

We are a better side with him in it

Its hard to see where the improvement in Carlton is going to come from
White is one I can see stepping up

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If CFC play around the boundary like all MM coached teams, is it so critical to have absolute pace in the mid field from the 2nd quarter onwards when the fast runners slow down a bit?
White has a good tank and can run and run. This given his size would suggest he could be useful in the mid field as a reliable link up player. He could be like Swan but with a more penetrating kick.
We should expect a large group playing through the mid field. I expect White to be in this role with Bell, Robinson and Cachia as backups.

london blue,
yes casboult can mark, but lacks the key factor for playing AFL, being able to KICK the footy.
mitchell will be a key forward for us,
he can mark, but most of all he can KICK the ball.
remember it is my opinion only,
do respect your comments though,
maybe rowe will come through.

If MM tries to play "round the boundary" we are stuffed.

We just don't kick the ball well enough.

There was a game (I think against Lions at the Gabba) a couple of years ago where we managed to kick OOB 11 times, without being instructed to use the boundary.

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I agree totally.
SB, Laidler is a far superior footballer to White IMO. More composure, understands the role of the "3rd man up" far better and is a superior kick.
As for comparisons with Swan SS, I hope you're talking about Greg and not Dane.

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This.

Struggling to see where White fits in, unless MM gives him a run as a mid in the NAB and he takes all before him. Otherwise, a depth KPB if any of Jamo, Laids, Watson, Hendo go down. Handy player though, glad he's still on the list.

Wow ... its a good list when we don't have injuries. We have some tough strong players, we have speed and we have talls. Very hard to come up with a team where there are so many choices. If Malthouse can't get this team into a prelim at least ... its a failure. I reckon Synbad could coach this team successfully ...
I left out Garlett because he was a little disappointing last year (giving Menzel a go in the first game would put some pressure back on Garlett). I left out Warnock but I reckon he might have a big year. I am not sure about Hampson (but if you play him, he can't come off the bench). And yea ... I know Tom Bell is a rookie. I reckon Mitchell will be a player ... but Casboult showed so much towards the end of the year ... he has to be in the side. McLean must play every game (not as a substitute) ... what a fantastic performance last year ... showed great character. Kreuzer ... this has to be a big year for him ... the pressure is on.

Armfield Jamison Laidler
Scotland Henderson Yarran
Gibbs Carrazzo Simpson
Betts Casboult Waite
Walker Hampson Menzel

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

I/C: Robinson, McLean, Bell, Touhy

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The way the coaches are talking, Warnock will play.
There goes a tall. Maybe Casboult because they are also saying that Hampson can play with the other two. Hampson won't be ready for a while IMO certainly not round one if that's what this exercise is about.
Waite will never play HFF when we have Garlett. MM is a fan of the small forward line we have. After all, they cut Collingwood to pieces twice last year and Garlett's kicking has to improve.
Manzell in our best 22 is a big call before he has pulled on a boot.
I believe Henderson will play at HB while Waite is on the field and after that? Who knows but I think Henderson will be one of those players who just plays both ends and that would be to his detriment long term.

The list looks good on paper but we have been saying that for at least two years now. It has to produce on the park.

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If Warnock plays Hampson won't. Surely not. We saw how crap it was playing all 3 rucks last year. Knew it wouldn't work. You're surely going to play a true forward at FF, not a bloody ruckman, who has no clue how to play the position. We saw how having Casboult at FF straightened us right up going forward compared to a ruckman there. We actually went best when Kreuzer was able to ruck near all day with cameo rucking from Casboult. Kreuzer doesn't actually go that well forward so if he doesn't have to spend 40-50% of the game there then it suits his game to ruck nearly all the time. MM's shown he likes the one ruck, one pinch hit type. Worked for the Pies, seemed to work best for us, why go away from it.

Waite and Garlett are entire different types. Both can play HFF. You don't want the same types of HFF'ers. Waite plays a midfield role well so with his marking that HFF type of position would suit him, as it does for Walker. Gartlett's the other type, a crumbing type. Might even go with Waite at FF and Casboult in a pocket so the latter can play forward, like Leigh Brown, then have the odd run in the ruck.

MM does like the idea of using Watson. He's had alot of success with young tall defenders. If that's the case Henderson would play forward, probably with Waite and Casboult in the way I mentioned above. If Henderson plays back then we'll play 2 ruckmen, with Waite and Casboult in the KP.

Question is where and at who's expense. Not ahead of Laider, Jamison, Watson/Henderson down back, nor Waite, Henderson (depending which end he plays), Casboult up forward.

He'll be depth.