Toy at BP?
Milne would just play with him.

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Haven't red this thread for a while.

You'd be thinking twice with that comment after watching Casboult chase down Dempsey twice. Better then you think in that regard. You may have anyway given the time of the post. We know Waite is quick and plays 3rd tall just as well as KP. Mitchell thoughts were a bit more speculative short-term and may need more time.

Much might come down to who we recruit too.

..too hard to pick a best side until we get a better idea of new coach and development.. ..plenty of talent on our list that could leap fwd with some good development and good game systems..

..also hoping some player positional changes are made as well..

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Scotland Jamison Laidler
Gibbs Henderson Yarran
Robinson McLean Simpson
Murphy Waite Gartlett
Betts Cloke Walker
Kreuzer Judd Carazzo

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For next year.

Jamison Watson Laidler
Scotland Henderson Yarran
Gibbs Murphy Simpson
Walker Waite Garlett
Casboult Mitchell Betts
Kreuzer Judd Carrazzo
McLean Robinson Bell Tuohy/Lucas/Curnow/Bootsma

Laidler Jamo Yarran
Scotland Henderson Gibbs
Carrazo Kruezer Robbo
Murphy Judd bell
Walker Waite McLean
Betts Casboult Simpson

Armfeild Tuohy Curnow (Lucas)

I'd leave Garlett out and leave "small forward" for resting mids

Like the last couple of sides!

MM has said we have some good talent and he will give them a chance. Will be good.

How would this look if it can play to its potential?? Could easily see something like this being trialled in the NAB Cup.

B: Collins McCarthy Laidler
HB: Bootsma Watson OKeefe
C: Lucas Touhy Gibbs
HF: Bell Henderson Yarran
F: Betts Mitchell Casboult
Foll: Hampson Robinson Murphy
Int: Buckley Carrazzo Davies Ellard

If a side like that can stand up we will be much better. Look who misses out and could easily deserve a game!

Doesn't include any recruits or draft picks either.

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My thoughts currently are;

Duigan Jamison Laidler
Tuohy Henderson Yarran
Gibbs Carrazzo Simpson
Walker Waite Garlett
Kruezer Casboult Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland McLean Robinson
Sub: Armfield

dreaming, bored,
laidler jamison watson
touhy henderson ben jacobs
scotland gibbs yarran
lucas waite simpson
walker jaksch???/mitchell betts
kreuzer judd murphy
carrazzo robinson duigan garlett stringer???

pick 11, either stringer or jaksch
pick 36, ben jacobs from port
pick 56, hoping mason wood or spencer white
we finally have some good depth,
mclean, hampson, warnock, bootsma, mccarthy, bell
armfield, ellard, white, mcInnes, casboult, rowe, curnow
''joseph and davies'' are very lucky i believe.
then players who need a little bit longer,
buckley, dale and o'keefe

Won't even bother guessing as to a whole 22, but we should feel confident of this grouping and then along with whoever performs best for MM's wishes and needs.

Laidler Jamison ..............
Yarran Henderson...........
Gibbs McLean Simpson
Walker Waite ................
Betts ........... ..............
Kreuzer Judd Murphy

Carrazzo Robinson

That makes for only 15 of the 22 and as much as I'd love to automatically drop in Garlett, Scotland, Tuohy, Bell and several others, I really think that there's still a lot to work through before we can confidently announce anything closely resembling the best starting side.

We know that Malthouse has a particular liking for Watson and Lucas, but they'll still need to tick off several boxes before getting approval from Mick.
I also have just a feeling that MM is really going to like O'Keeffe.

Bricks and Mortar: that's one way I like to look at your building block formula...then backfill....and that's because there's a salary cap and we can't have superstars in every position but we can have them on each line as you;ve shown.

Carrazzo is ahead of McLean, whichener way you spin in...lets not debate it, except to say that Carrazzo was a given before McLean took another gasp. Carrazzo came back from a long time our and still looked better than McLean imo. But I get the drift of your post. I like it.

Bricks and Mortar.

Interesting to me is that I don't think there's a team in the comp that wouldn't have Garlett in their 1st 22, and I think they would also believe they could improve him, even Ratten.

I would like you to consider 16/22 with Garlett in.
I can't see MM dropping Scotland if Scotland can keep the same form of his last 5 years, and he is our 2012 B & F, so there's 17/22...

there's an argument to make that Tuohy Casboult even Watson.......Hammer , Warnock...would fill those positions easily and I reckon Duigan will make amends and return to his 2011 form. Arizona might be what he needs.

It is all about the coach and the players' fitness, because imo there is 25-30 players next year who could play a role for MM, I mean CFC, towin us a flag. I did last year too...but we lost games because we didn't defend the other way. Isn't that what MM is renowned for?

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..i think if MM likes what he see's in Watto, who continues to improve, then you could almost slot him in at CHB provided he holds up and continues to show the steady improvement he has so far over his brief AFL career.. ..this is turn would push Hendo to CHF, where a hard working workhorse type CHF is very much what MM also likes.. ..a KPP that works hard, and is reliable in regards to adhering to his gameplan.. ..all things Hendo is..

..if some of the young kids step up, and we know with MM they'll get opportunity with repsoniblity and faith,, then that could really shake-up what our best 22 looks like.. ..both with players named, and positions played in..

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Re. Garlett: One of my favourite players that had distractions this year and may have just been a tradable commodity.
So glad we didn't cave to the offers made for him, but with talk of us having interest in Reimers, it may suggest that we may just consider for some small goal-kicking back-up.

Tuohy: Did get confused with his role this year as he found it a little difficult to curb his attacking prowess even when asked to just defend.
He'll need to put the blinkers on and follow MM's explicit wants or he may just find himself moved out of the team. Still think he'll eventually find himself forward of centre.

Casboult/Mitchell/Rowe: Only one spot to fill from these three guys. Best dressed gets the job.

Hammer/Warnock...and even Kreuzer: It may just take some juggling to get the best of all worlds here. I doubt even Mick knows just which way to go just yet.

Armfield should just about be an automatic inclusion now. Close but no cigar just yet.

Scotland: He'll most likely be there but another year older, will miss some early games and who can really say for sure after that?

Curnow & Bell: Just depends on their pre-season now.

I agree with your numbers of 25-30 players vying strongly for first 22 spots and I'd venture to say it could go to about 35 players having good reason to put their hand up for a spot.
We have players McCarthy, O'Keeffe & Bootsma ready to step up and still have the likes of Ellard, Duigan, McInnes, Joseph and White all having reasons to stake their claims.

We also have picks #11 and at least #36 that may just be thereabouts also.

Early days and who knows what will pan out over the course of the next few months but if nothing else, we know that MM wants players to play specific roles so it's just a matter of the fit now.

EDIT: Reckon that MM wants Lucas as a starting player. Gibbs is project no. 1 with Lucas not far behind.

Nice summary harker.

I forgto that Scotto will miss the beginning of the season, then he has to fight for a spot thereafter. Having said that, he is the reigning B&F and an extra 6-12 months of ageing isn't going to see the end of him. MM loves the interchange bench and believes in high intensity and plenty of rotations...that will benefit Scotto.

I was just thinking about Rowe and what Arizona may do for him.
I just get the feeling he is not going to let the young bucks just overtake him.

If Rowe can improve his speed, and I've seen what he can do with ball in hand, I reckon he will put a lot of pressure for that FF or CHF spot.

I have a lot of faith in our big men. You'd think there's enough of them to give us at least one or two beauties especially with another preseason under the belt of McCarthy, Mitchell, Casboult.

I reckon you could be right about Lucas. Any addition to the midfield will help the cause. Pick #11 should be a midfielder too, and if so, might add some enthusiasm to the group.

I was looking forwrad to 2012, but 2013, with a full list doing a full preseason and Arizona, and new coach...how could I not expect a Flag. We'll be up for it.

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BB, Its evolution my friend

..hope not, i think small fwds is something we have a fair few of, even if jeffy drops out of favour i think we have other options and no need to draft in that knob..

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That was only a fleeting thought regarding Reimers.
I'm more than happy to pass on him but will be holding my breath until we do though.

Garlett's value goes well beyond the goals he's capable of with his tackling and the perceived pressure our small forwards bring to our set-up.
It's easy to forget just how dangerous this guy can be and for now, I'm just happy to see him smiling and having a good time in Arizona

..a fan of jeffy as well, hopefully his engine gets bigger so he can drift further upfield as a high hf/wing option so he can be more involved..

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Looks like we filled a few spots tonight!

B: Temay Jamison Laidler
HB: McInnes Watson OKeefe
C: Simpson Carrazzo Yarran
HF: Gibbs Henderson Menzel
F: Betts Casboult Waite
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

Plus: Bell Lucas Walker Robinson McLean Bootsma Touhy

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