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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:40 pm 
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"It's the constitution, it's law, it's Mabo, it's Travis Johnstone'.....

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:46 pm 
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I think they're underestimating the shitness of carlton at that time.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:47 pm 
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Who cares. It was years ago. It's not like we've won 5 flags in a row since anyway.

Blueboy74 wrote:
"It's the constitution, it's law, it's Mabo, it's Travis Johnstone'.....


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:49 pm 
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jim wrote:
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Please, how much credibility has the Fev off the field.


A few off -field indiscretions doesn't deter from the fact that Fev is certainly no dummy when it comes to football. It's like saying Shane Warne has no credibility when it comes to cricket because of off-field indiscretions.

Just a stereotypical comment.

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1. "A few off-field indiscretions" doesn't really do it justice.
2. Deter? Not sure what you mean?? Detract maybe??
3. Really? Comparing Fev to Shane Warne? Fev was a very talented half reasonable footballer who didn't play in any premierships, didn't win any B&Fs, and will go down in history as a good ordinary player (unfortunately, I might add - just in case you mistakenly think I don't like him). Warnie otoh was a champion in all forms of the game, has the most wickets in Australian test history, played in (and was one of the main reasons for) many winning test, one-day, and shield victories, and was named by Wisden as one of the TOP 5 cricketers of the century. A more inapt comparison could not really be made!
4. Why do you call it a stereotypical comment?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:16 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:49 pm 
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"We would tag Travis Johnstone every time we played them, because Ratts (coach Brett Ratten) came from Melbourne (as an assistant coach) - and Johnstone had 42 touches.
"We tagged him every single time we played him. (Heath Scotland) had a few touches as well. But they didn't play on each other.
"If we were serious about it, we would have tagged him."


For once Ratts under the microscope for not tagging. :razz:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:19 pm 
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Fev reckons we didn't try very hard in rnd 22 2007, but he didn't watch the game.
He went home and listened to it on the radio.

What the @#$%&! were we paying this bloke for?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:03 pm 
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The sad part for Fev is that opening his mouth on the issue actually served the dual purpose of lessening the credibility of the allegation (as he wasn't playing, he didn't watch the game and none of the coaches suggested that we should tank) and further hurting his relationship with the club.

It has the unfortunate ring of a man who cannot let his love of the limelight go. Fev will end up with no friends if he keeps taking journo's calls to pot us.

FWIW I believe we tanked but not in r22. I reckon it was the Filth game when Fev was dragged. I felt dirty watching that and amazingly the press has not challenged it. In r22 Whitnall played for his future and was up and about early, TJ was nullified by Scotland (nil all draw) and the players of both sides played for the end of season trip. We hit the post about 7 times...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:47 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
jim wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Please, how much credibility has the Fev off the field.


A few off -field indiscretions doesn't deter from the fact that Fev is certainly no dummy when it comes to football. It's like saying Shane Warne has no credibility when it comes to cricket because of off-field indiscretions.

Just a stereotypical comment.

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1. "A few off-field indiscretions" doesn't really do it justice.
2. Deter? Not sure what you mean?? Detract maybe??
3. Really? Comparing Fev to Shane Warne? Fev was a very talented half reasonable footballer who didn't play in any premierships, didn't win any B&Fs, and will go down in history as a good ordinary player (unfortunately, I might add - just in case you mistakenly think I don't like him). Warnie otoh was a champion in all forms of the game, has the most wickets in Australian test history, played in (and was one of the main reasons for) many winning test, one-day, and shield victories, and was named by Wisden as one of the TOP 5 cricketers of the century. A more inapt comparison could not really be made!
4. Why do you call it a stereotypical comment?


Ta Moshe could not have said it better myself.

Warnie and Fev may both be bogans but apart from the above sporting powress Warnie was smart enough off the field to accumulate sufficient money to pay out an ex wife and still buy an estate in England (and keep Liz) while Fev has ?????

BTW and correct me if I am wrong but Warnie should have the most test wickets of all if not for the chucker?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:47 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
Fev reckons we didn't try very hard in rnd 22 2007, but he didn't watch the game.
He went home and listened to it on the radio.

What the !@#$%& were we paying this bloke for?


Whitnall kicked 1 goal 4 that night and he missed some sitters.

Of all the people on the field he was the one you could most obviously say was tanking, but perversely he was playing for his career and never played another game for Carlton.

Move along.....nothing to see here.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:36 pm 
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Fev's views came up a while back when he was flogging his book.

So his old news. We hit the post so many fckin one against the Dees which Stevens and Ralph keep ignoring.

While allowing Johnstone 42 possies, they allowed Scotland 41 possies. The whole thing is a joke.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:50 pm 
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Fev's quickly turning into Warwick Capper

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:57 pm 
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Does anyone else remember the second time we played Collingwood in 2007? I was there and I'll never forget it.

It was a tight game all day and we were a goal ahead about halfway through the last quarter. We were on four wins at the time. Fev had kicked six and looked like being the matchwinner. Suddenly, Fev was taken off, not to return for the rest of the game, owing to what the club later claimed to have been an "injury". Collingwood ended up winning by four goals. Fev played the following week. I have no doubt that we would have won that game had Fev been allowed to complete the game.

There would be many other suspicious incidents that give rise to an inference of tanking, but this one is particularly vivid for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:06 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
jim wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Please, how much credibility has the Fev off the field.


A few off -field indiscretions doesn't deter from the fact that Fev is certainly no dummy when it comes to football. It's like saying Shane Warne has no credibility when it comes to cricket because of off-field indiscretions.

Just a stereotypical comment.

...........

1. "A few off-field indiscretions" doesn't really do it justice.
2. Deter? Not sure what you mean?? Detract maybe??
3. Really? Comparing Fev to Shane Warne? Fev was a very talented half reasonable footballer who didn't play in any premierships, didn't win any B&Fs, and will go down in history as a good ordinary player (unfortunately, I might add - just in case you mistakenly think I don't like him). Warnie otoh was a champion in all forms of the game, has the most wickets in Australian test history, played in (and was one of the main reasons for) many winning test, one-day, and shield victories, and was named by Wisden as one of the TOP 5 cricketers of the century. A more inapt comparison could not really be made!
4. Why do you call it a stereotypical comment?


Ta Moshe could not have said it better myself.

Warnie and Fev may both be bogans but apart from the above sporting powress Warnie was smart enough off the field to accumulate sufficient money to pay out an ex wife and still buy an estate in England (and keep Liz) while Fev has ?????

BTW and correct me if I am wrong but Warnie should have the most test wickets of all if not for the chucker?


Without wanting to speak for jim, I'm pretty sure that he is simply saying that Fevola's off-field waywardness does not necessarily detract from his football intelligence and that Shane Warne is the quintessential example of this (in relation to cricket). In other words, it is possible that Fevola, despite having played up off the field, could still give useful and insightful football-related observations and commentary.

Personally, I agree with jim, I've always thought that Fevola actually does know what he is talking about in relation to football; granted, he doesn't express himself too elegantly, but the thrust of what he is saying is often spot on.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:20 pm 
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jim wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Please, how much credibility has the Fev off the field.


A few off -field indiscretions doesn't deter from the fact that Fev is certainly no dummy when it comes to football. It's like saying Shane Warne has no credibility when it comes to cricket because of off-field indiscretions.

Just a stereotypical comment.

It's only a personal feeling he had. That's never going to be "hard" evidence thankfully. We didn't have the "planning" and subsequent player "revolts" Melbourne did to leave evidence behind for the AFL. We covered ourselves alot better.

We certainly tanked but proving it will be very hard, unlike at Melbourne.


Well Jim, the AFL could always take the G.W. Bushjnr approach. Smash us because they think we might thought about it have even though they have no proof.

Personally I don't think we needed to tank. We were crap enough as it was without trying to be crappier

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:36 pm 
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Fev was probably speaking for himself. Most likely he was having another of his temper tantrums when they didn't always kick the ball to him.

Now he is just an attention whore.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:21 pm 
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Fevola aka dial a quote is clinging to the last threads of relevance in the football world. Throw him in the same basket as Capper, Aker and Dougie Hawkins. At the end of the day, no-one gives a shit what any of them have to say

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:37 am 
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No doubt Fev wants to stay in the limelight a little bit longer


Fact is tanking went on
fact is because of it we got Kreuzer
fact is if we had not tanked we would have got Cotchin


All up a complete mess.

Its time for the AFL to
tackle the issue
change the draft rules

so tanking is officially put to bed


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:43 am 
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Tanking is when you drop down for a year or 2 to top up with picks
Not when you have been sitting on the bottom for years and years and trying to build a list
It the sides that slide quickly and bounce back up again to the finals the following year they should look at

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