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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:54 pm 
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Mick said we will be having a quite trade period, the next day he he want Kurt tippett....lol

I guess he had to put a feeler out....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:01 pm 
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Did he say it via video?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:01 pm 
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another one to the ever growing list, was I dreaming or is the media reporting that MM is happy with our list?

Perhaps he seeks to promote within, then draft, instead of putting a broom through it.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:37 pm 
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if he's happy with it then we can retain our high expectations

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:18 pm 
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I think you should probably wait and see what the changes are. I think the comments come with regards to questions of a major overhaul to the list. Do you think we need to do that?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:18 pm 
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kennyhunter wrote:
Did he say it via video?


Happy with list via cfc tv and about Tippett via radio in Adelaide...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:43 pm 
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I think you should probably wait and see what the changes are. I think the comments come with regards to questions of a major overhaul to the list. Do you think we need to do that?

not at all, do I think we need to pursue the best available free agents - yes

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Fair enough. Best available to us might be slim pickings though.

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Yazzamatazz wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Did he say it via video?


Happy with list via cfc tv and about Tippett via radio in Adelaide...


Sorry Yazz, was being sarcastic ...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:40 pm 
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MM will not know our list as much as people think he will. When you are on the outside of a club you tend to notice the positives more of a player than you do the negatives. When that player comes over to your club the coach and even the spectators will begin to see the negatives of that player that were not that evident previously. For this reason MM maybe reluctant to make too many calls on players.

Secondly MM has a great track record in raising the standards of players and resurrecting careers. For this reason he maybe think what is in the past, is in the past. I have no doubt some Carlton players are going to be far better off under his coaching.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:47 am 
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I think MM would of been watching the Blues a bit closer than other teams this year so he will know the players strengths and weaknesses...

I think he wants to see there true peak before he makes the call, possibly in completely different roles...

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How refreshing to have a coach that doesn't actually tell the media everything he's thinking or planning.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:07 am 
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Secondly MM has a great track record in raising the standards of players and resurrecting careers. For this reason he maybe think what is in the past, is in the past. I have no doubt some Carlton players are going to be far better off under his coaching.


Most coaches have a track record of raising the standards of players. Laidler under Ratten comes to mind. And like most coaches, Mick has his failures. (Cam Wood traded for pick 15 and still a spud, Chris Bryan poached from Carlton and did nothing)
The onus will still be on the program to develop and improve players. MM isnt going to do it.

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Blue Vain wrote:
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Secondly MM has a great track record in raising the standards of players and resurrecting careers. For this reason he maybe think what is in the past, is in the past. I have no doubt some Carlton players are going to be far better off under his coaching.


Most coaches have a track record of raising the standards of players. Laidler under Ratten comes to mind. And like most coaches, Mick has his failures. (Cam Wood traded for pick 15 and still a spud, Chris Bryan poached from Carlton and did nothing)
The onus will still be on the program to develop and improve players. MM isnt going to do it.


Yes, but MM has brought in Wiley to head the development program. Malthouse may not be doing it, but he's having an influence on it and has set the course for it, as a leader should.

Laidler? Became to a club that would actually play him, and immediately thrived. I wouldn't credit any kind of coach-led development there. Carazzo might be a better example.

Anyway, I'm far more interested in how our senior coach develops the team. Was interesting to hear Scotland say at the b&f that the players "bust a hump" in every single game. Really? I'm not sure how he could say that, particularly after just watching Syd vs Haw in the GF.

a bit delusional down at PP methinks. There's trying... And there's trying.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:51 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
How refreshing to have a coach that doesn't actually tell the media everything he's thinking or planning.



If you listen to him I dont think he knows himself
He appears to be living in a different world to me and how anyone can say Mick is going to do this or that is beyond me because he gives the impression he is making it up as he goes along

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:54 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
How refreshing to have a coach that doesn't actually tell the media everything he's thinking or planning.



If you listen to him I dont think he knows himself
He appears to be living in a different world to me and how anyone can say Mick is going to do this or that is beyond me because he gives the impression he is making it up as he goes along

I agree........ He appears to be living in a different world to you. :wink:

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
How refreshing to have a coach that doesn't actually tell the media everything he's thinking or planning.



If you listen to him I dont think he knows himself
He appears to be living in a different world to me and how anyone can say Mick is going to do this or that is beyond me because he gives the impression he is making it up as he goes along



That sounds like Ratts!

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
How refreshing to have a coach that doesn't actually tell the media everything he's thinking or planning.



If you listen to him I dont think he knows himself
He appears to be living in a different world to me and how anyone can say Mick is going to do this or that is beyond me because he gives the impression he is making it up as he goes along


Well, on the one hand you have his track record over 30 years - during which time he's pulled teams up the ladder, won multiple flags and fostered a genuine sense of team amongst the playing group.

On the other hand, you have a 'vibe' that he doesn't know what he's doing, because he hasn't really given much in a few media conferences.

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Pagan also pulled teams up the ladder and won multiple flags

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Blue Vain wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
Secondly MM has a great track record in raising the standards of players and resurrecting careers. For this reason he maybe think what is in the past, is in the past. I have no doubt some Carlton players are going to be far better off under his coaching.


Most coaches have a track record of raising the standards of players. Laidler under Ratten comes to mind. And like most coaches, Mick has his failures. (Cam Wood traded for pick 15 and still a spud, Chris Bryan poached from Carlton and did nothing)
The onus will still be on the program to develop and improve players. MM isnt going to do it.


Yes, but MM has brought in Wiley to head the development program. Malthouse may not be doing it, but he's having an influence on it and has set the course for it, as a leader should.

Laidler? Became to a club that would actually play him, and immediately thrived. I wouldn't credit any kind of coach-led development there. Carazzo might be a better example.

Anyway, I'm far more interested in how our senior coach develops the team. Was interesting to hear Scotland say at the b&f that the players "bust a hump" in every single game. Really? I'm not sure how he could say that, particularly after just watching Syd vs Haw in the GF.

a bit delusional down at PP methinks. There's trying... And there's trying.

I think it just comes down to the players understanding their role in the team.

If the assistant coaches can convey Micks philosophies and plans to the players and they grasp it all, then confidence lifts and the sky's the limit.

Not sure the playing group really knew what they were doing the last few years.


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