The all NEW Mick Malthouse thread

BlueMark · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:10 am

C'mon CB one of the reasons I stopped posting that every time I tried to argue a positive point I got verbally gangbanged by the 'doomers' and after a loss it was even worse. And when you have a go back they went sooking. Some posters I read with interest because althought I might disagree have a least put some thought into what they say. Others just use the Tony Abbott method which is repeative catch phrases and slogans that don't stand up to scutiny. Or they do a complete rewrite of history which even more frustrating.

camel · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:13 am

Comment taken on board and was in part what prompted today's global announcement (of course, also noting the verbals were being fired from both bows).

BlueMark · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:13 am

That said I will sad to see Ratts go, but I am also keen to see what Malthouse does with the playing group. Just wonder how long before the same people who called for Ratts head will also strat calling for Micks head. I give it no longer than our first loss next year.

clape · **Joined:** Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:27 pm **Posts:** 44

BlueMark wrote:

That said I will sad to see Ratts go, but I am also keen to see what Malthouse does with the playing group. Just wonder how long before the same people who called for Ratts head will also strat calling for Micks head. I give it no longer than our first loss next year.

not sure what tomorrow brings but would love the crowd the chance to give Ratts a standing O on the weekend. It has ended up as it has but all must appreciate the effort

camel · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:19 am

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6461120341

Claims an offer won't be made to Malthouse until next week.

Interestingly the article also claims Sticks and Swann are under pressure. They may both deserve that scrutiny, but you'd reckon Swann wouldn't go if Malthouse arrives.

Unless we want to re-Pagan things.

jimmae · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:52 am

JK wrote:

Ratts is set to earn $550K next year. That's more than some earn throughout their entire professional life. He is also almost guaranteed an assistant coaching gig at another club and will probably command $250-300K.

The smarter ones on here picked it might end up this way right at the very beginning.

Even at minimum wage you earn more than $550k in an average life time. Well over.

Just saying...

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

camelboy wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/blues-set-to-move-on-mick-malthouse/story-e6frf9jf-1226461120341

Claims an offer won't be made to Malthouse until next week.

Interestingly the article also claims Sticks and Swann are under pressure. They may both deserve that scrutiny, but you'd reckon Swann wouldn't go if Malthouse arrives.

Unless we want to re-Pagan things.

Hard to imagine a new coach being appointed while the Prez AND CEO are replaced. One has to stay at least. Hopefully it's Swann.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 17951

I still dont see it. Can someone set me straight?
We have a 59 year old man who coached for 16 consecutive years without a premiership at the 2 best resourced clubs in the AFL.
He was a balls bounce away from defeat in the 2010 GF by a team that has half the talent of Collingwood IMO.

He was given the flick by his most recent team because they believe he is finished. He is a self confessed control freak and all reports from his ex assistant coaches indicate he is a fruit cake who refuses to have his position reviewed.

Yet we will sign this bloke up without interviewing all the best young candidates out there.

Surely a Scott Burns or Mark Williams are worth interviewing?
Havent we learnt anthing from the Pagan situation?
Surely if Malthouse is the best option, he shouldnt be afraid of going through an interview process with other suitable candidates.

What am I missing?

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:33 am

Only his relationship with our CEO and 2 years of planning.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 17951

Swann is struggling for credibility as our CEO and he's now picking our coach?

Freddy47 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 275

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

camelboy wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/blues-set-to-move-on-mick-malthouse/story-e6frf9jf-1226461120341

Claims an offer won't be made to Malthouse until next week.

Interestingly the article also claims Sticks and Swann are under pressure. They may both deserve that scrutiny, but you'd reckon Swann wouldn't go if Malthouse arrives.

Unless we want to re-Pagan things.

Hard to imagine a new coach being appointed while the Prez AND CEO are replaced. One has to stay at least. Hopefully it's Swann.

Why Swann? What has he achieved in 5 years? Relative to other clubs our membership is way down. Why didn't we get over 50,000 members this year? Is it the marketing department? Is it the membership department? Both report to Swann.

What is our debt? Shouldn't a CEO be concentrating on reducing debt?

Jeez i ask a lot of questions. I wish somebody in charge of Carlton would answer them.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

Just listening to Robert Walls on the radio. Has become very bitter and his reasoning is poor.

Obviously something more to this.

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

ThePsychologist wrote:

Just listening to Robert Walls on the radio. Has become very bitter and his reasoning is poor.

Obviously something more to this.

Stats that suit his argument have been rolled out for weeks.

He hates Malthouse, it's that simple IMO.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:53 am

Blue Vain wrote:

I still dont see it. Can someone set me straight?
We have a 59 year old man who coached for 16 consecutive years without a premiership at the 2 best resourced clubs in the AFL.
He was a balls bounce away from defeat in the 2010 GF by a team that has half the talent of Collingwood IMO.

He was given the flick by his most recent team because they believe he is finished. He is a self confessed control freak and all reports from his ex assistant coaches indicate he is a fruit cake who refuses to have his position reviewed.

Yet we will sign this bloke up without interviewing all the best young candidates out there.

Surely a Scott Burns or Mark Williams are worth interviewing?
Havent we learnt anthing from the Pagan situation?
Surely if Malthouse is the best option, he shouldnt be afraid of going through an interview process with other suitable candidates.

What am I missing?

Seems we never learn
I cannot see even why they are interested myself
This will all end in tears again

Synbad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:02 am

Sydney Blue wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

I still dont see it. Can someone set me straight?
We have a 59 year old man who coached for 16 consecutive years without a premiership at the 2 best resourced clubs in the AFL.
He was a balls bounce away from defeat in the 2010 GF by a team that has half the talent of Collingwood IMO.

He was given the flick by his most recent team because they believe he is finished. He is a self confessed control freak and all reports from his ex assistant coaches indicate he is a fruit cake who refuses to have his position reviewed.

Yet we will sign this bloke up without interviewing all the best young candidates out there.

Surely a Scott Burns or Mark Williams are worth interviewing?
Havent we learnt anthing from the Pagan situation?
Surely if Malthouse is the best option, he shouldnt be afraid of going through an interview process with other suitable candidates.

What am I missing?

Seems we never learn
I cannot see even why they are interested myself
This will all end in tears again

So... the board is no good.. and sticks is buggering us up???

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:05 am

Blue Vain wrote:

Swann is struggling for credibility as our CEO and he's now picking our coach?

You its not coming from Swann?

baz_baz · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 11:44 am **Posts:** 2000

ThePsychologist wrote:

baz_baz wrote:

Will Malthouse deliver a premiership, just as likely as Ratten

No its not. Ratten doesn't have a job! :donk:

Just as likely if he is reappointed. :thumbsup:

Synbad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:15 am

TruBlueBrad wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

Swann is struggling for credibility as our CEO and he's now picking our coach?

You its not coming from Swann?

Te board ratify hiring and sacking of coaches.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 17951

TruBlueBrad wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

Swann is struggling for credibility as our CEO and he's now picking our coach?

You its not coming from Swann?

It wouldnt surprise me at all Brad.
Its all part of the powerplay that unfortunately exists at weak and poorly led clubs. Vacuums are created too easily and the most devious seize their opportunity when it is created.
Its a good way for Swann to make himself credible and relevant.

Whether its in Carltons best interest is secondary.

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:21 am

Blue Vain wrote:

It wouldnt surprise me at all Brad.
Its all part of the powerplay that unfortunately exists at weak and poorly led clubs. Vacuums are created too easily and the most devious seize their opportunity when it is created.
Its a good way for Swann to make himself credible and relevant.

Whether its in Carltons best interest is secondary.

Spot on BV.

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