The all NEW Mick Malthouse thread

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:43 pm

murraycray wrote:

Not a problem baz, the irony is I don't disagree that changes need to be made. Lots of em. But after a while the carping of certain floggers who have nothing else happening in their lives begins to grate.
End result I'll rack off for a while.

so u have alot going on in your life but come on to be grated??? :lol:

footy forum... carlton forum.... discussion and use your foe button... i dont care....

i encourage it...

i dont complain about people i dont like.....

:lol:

thats just pathetic murray

Stamos · **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 pm **Posts:** 1984

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Siegfried wrote:

According to Healy on AW tonight, Carlton sponsors have been having a say in all this. We'll pay you x if Ratten is coach, we'll pay you 2x if Malthouse is coach, was what he said. This could all be enough to cover payouts and salaries, IF true.

Yes

Consider who is 1 of our bigger sponsors & who is on the board - recycling or cardboard anyone?

So...
What do you know about Cloke?

TheSwan · **Joined:** Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm **Posts:** 1932

Siegfried wrote:

According to Healy on AW tonight, Carlton sponsors have been having a say in all this. We'll pay you x if Ratten is coach, we'll pay you 2x if Malthouse is coach, was what he said. This could all be enough to cover payouts and salaries, IF true.

They way the media has been with all of this, I wouldn't take what Healy said to the bank. In any case, I don't believe that the club would make a decision about Ratts because of these sponsors and their potential finance.

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

Stamos wrote:

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Siegfried wrote:

According to Healy on AW tonight, Carlton sponsors have been having a say in all this. We'll pay you x if Ratten is coach, we'll pay you 2x if Malthouse is coach, was what he said. This could all be enough to cover payouts and salaries, IF true.

Yes

Consider who is 1 of our bigger sponsors & who is on the board - recycling or cardboard anyone?

So...
What do you know about Cloke?

Other than his family are a liability?

Stamos · **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 pm **Posts:** 1984

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Other than his family are a liability?

Yes, other than that.
Everybody knows his family is a liability. :donk:

baz_baz · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 11:44 am **Posts:** 2000

Synbad wrote:

baz baz instead of being childish do you have anything to add to this discussion????

MM is our new coach....

... he will be annunced inside 2 weeks...

Ratten never cut it...

what do you have to add??

Ok..so you have lost the smartarse verbal battle and now you want to talk football.

Ok ill talk football

MM has not been announced as our new coach. Ill wait and see if that happens...thats the first point

If he does arrive at CFC he will bring with him a set of values and disciplines around football which will bring some positives and negatives.

He will bring some insights not afforded to him until this year becuase he has been able to stand aside from the inside at Collinwood, if that makes sense and look at the game plans required to be successful in a less lensed sight.

The ramifications on the club, finacially and culturally im not sure about because I dont know enough about the place to comment.

Playing stocks in terms of skill and ability is a little shy. I can comment on that because I view quite a few Northern games and senior games.

Will there be a honeymoon period, probably

Will it last very long, probably not.

Will Malthouse deliver a premiership, just as likely as Ratten

Punter22 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:46 pm

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

So I guess the question now is - is Mick bringing Cloke with him?

An interesting montage on AFL 360 now featured a clip where Robbo said "Collingwood can't understand why the Clokes have walked away from a contract which was virtually signed". It was from several weeks ago.

Now, if OR's hypothetical sequence of events is correct, could there be something to the thought that the Cloke deal is as far along as the Malthouse deal seemingly is?

My sequence of events wasn't necessarily hypothetical :wink:

Yes I gathered, hence the question :wink:

Which remains unanswered.... :grin:

JK · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:19 pm **Posts:** 2187

Ratts is set to earn $550K next year. That's more than some earn throughout their entire professional life. He is also almost guaranteed an assistant coaching gig at another club and will probably command $250-300K.

The smarter ones on here picked it might end up this way right at the very beginning.

TheBluesMuse · **Joined:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:27 pm **Posts:** 5270

FMD synbad.....you make this forum actually worth visiting. I think for awhile there TC was suffering from the same kiss bum disease that infects our club.

Stamos · **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 pm **Posts:** 1984

TheSwan wrote:

In any case, I don't believe that the club would make a decision about Ratts because of these sponsors and their potential finance.

I suppose there are two ways of looking at this equation.
One is that a sponsor/s or other persons are having undue influence. The other is that they are allowing the freedom to make the right decision without having to consider the financial aspect.

I don't know which one is right in this case.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

baz_baz wrote:

Will Malthouse deliver a premiership, just as likely as Ratten

No its not. Ratten doesn't have a job! :donk:

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

TheBluesMuse wrote:

FMD synbad.....you make this forum actually worth visiting. I think for awhile there TC was suffering from the same kiss bum disease that infects our club.

This is nothing. You want to come to our catch up drinks! :yikes:

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:51 pm

baz_baz wrote:

Synbad wrote:

baz baz instead of being childish do you have anything to add to this discussion????

MM is our new coach....

... he will be annunced inside 2 weeks...

Ratten never cut it...

what do you have to add??

Ok..so you have lost the smartarse verbal battle and now you want to talk football.

Ok ill talk football

MM has not been announced as our new coach. Ill wait and see if that happens...thats the first point

If he does arrive at CFC he will bring with him a set of values and disciplines around football which will bring some positives and negatives.

He will bring some insights not afforded to him until this year becuase he has been able to stand aside from the inside at Collinwood, if that makes sense and look at the game plans required to be successful in a less lensed sight.

The ramifications on the club, finacially and culturally im not sure about because I dont know enough about the place to comment.

Playing stocks in terms of skill and ability is a little shy. I can comment on that because I view quite a few Northern games and senior games.

Will there be a honeymoon period, probably

Will it last very long, probably not.

Will Malthouse deliver a premiership, just as likely as Ratten

more likely than ratten.. cos ratten isnt going to be coach ever again......... so he is more than unlikely to deliver us a flag...he is in a hopless position to win us a flag.. impossible...

which is pretty much where he was 5 years ago

MM has tu rned average teams into teams that are competive..

so lets wait and see shall we???

anyway.. dont entertain me if i grate u.....

cos all this new found energy should have been present when we fell off the cliff... if not before

Punter22 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:52 pm

If a sponsor said to the club... Don't concerned yourselves with the financial ramifications of a decision, just put the very best person int he job...

I would have absolutely no problem with that.

If they are dictating who they want in the job, I would be more concerned.

bluedog · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:55 pm

Stamos wrote:

TheSwan wrote:

In any case, I don't believe that the club would make a decision about Ratts because of these sponsors and their potential finance.

I suppose there are two ways of looking at this equation.
One is that a sponsor/s or other persons are having undue influence. The other is that they are allowing the freedom to make the right decision without having to consider the financial aspect.

I don't know which one is right in this case.

Of course sponsors will affect the outcome.

MandMs is a MARS product!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:55 pm

Punter22 wrote:

If a sponsor said to the club... Don't concerned yourselves with the financial ramifications of a decision, just put the very best person int he job...

I would have absolutely no problem with that.

If they are dictating who they want in the job, I would be more concerned.

So Jeanie or Bruce are paying him out
Cant see Hyundai saying that

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

Stamos wrote:

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Other than his family are a liability?

Yes, other than that.
Everybody knows his family is a liability. :donk:

Sorry, I'll endeavour to add some level of value in future posts .

Stamos · **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 pm **Posts:** 1984

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Sorry, I'll endeavour to add some level of value in future posts .

Cheers

Punter22 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:08 pm

Sydney Blue wrote:

So Jeanie or Bruce are paying him out
Cant see Hyundai saying that

Knowing what I know about hyundai's general approach to sponsorships, that would be a correct assumption.

Anyway, I think this question has been answered.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:15 pm

baz_baz wrote:

Yeah good work...so you let Synbad get away with vitriol and smack Murraycray?

You must be an umpire :lol:

Synbad is certainly capable of dishing out vitriol, I agree with you there.

But in the post you have highlighted the only thing I can see that anyone could take offence to is misunderstanding what apathetic means.

:confused:

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