How's that glass going?

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To be fair chicken had this game as 50/50....

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yeah 50 50
But we have been pansted by a middle of the road team.

There are so many negatives its hard to know where to start
Being a glass half empty guy is good
Because you can see the warning signs early.

Bottom line
What we have tried on just about every level hasnt worked and clubs like North have gone passed us.

Just a couple of things
Poor forward structure
Players look small
mentally fragile
Players dont hurt enough after a loss
The coach is so dumb
players dont develop
part time reserve coach
looked at Murphy chatting to Swallow after the game with a smile on his face. Unbelievable. The season has just finished for us.

Something is horribly wrong
as i said on numerous occasions a mate who isnt savvy and smart enoough runs a board with too many on it appoints a mate who is too dumb to be an AFL coach.
We are [REDACTED] until Kernahan departs
If the same stench of arrogance remains then it wont be long before we are passed by GWS and Gold Coast
We are fast becoming a Richmond and Melbourne. Decades of shit.
Judd is a great player. He knew this was a season defining game and played an amazing match.
But afterwards he looked so confused. His body language said it all.
I am playing with a lazy bunch of softcocks
who dont want it
Partly the players fault
Partly coaching

4th Chicken if last night doesnt convince you that we dont just sack the coach but change so many of the positions and the culture of the club I dont know what can.

Dont bother reading posters like Cazz who come on here inferring that posters like me dont have a clue after one good peformance in 3 months.

Ratten and Kernahan should do the right thing by the club and just walk.
But that wont happen
Someone has to force the issue

Just thought I would add.....

Essendon* coach James Hird has admitted that Etihad Stadium's renowned hard surface is a factor in the Bombers' crippling list of injuries.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...- ... 6425180012

Yep lets blame Etihad as well

The glass half fool!!!

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Yet they win there 9 times out of 10....

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

Glass is still there -have you burnt your membership card and rattan effigy yet?

Had it as a 50:50 game

Then you lose Touhy before the game (i.e. team weakened)
Then you lose walker within the 1st 5 mins of the game
Then joseph gets concussed before half time and leaves us one rotation down for the second half

Taking the above into account, its not surprising that we lost. If you told me that the above would have happened pre-game, I'd have penned it in as a loss

We failed to capitalise on our early play and up until half time actually had around the same number of scoring shots 6.9 - 12.2).

and yes, I'm not happy with the final margin - unlike yourself, I'm not quite ready to slash my wrists just yet

What has whether youre gunna neck yourself got to do with our performances????

Tuohy and Walker wouldnt have made the difference.
Tuohy is a 12 touches man.
Walker hasnt been in sparking form.

We lost it cos our players are confused and frustrated and are playing without a system.

injuries happen to all teams.

But the better ones dont capitulate

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I envy the easily-pleased.

Ditto. It must be wonderful up there

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

I keep watching the pot shots at posters and laughing.......but for how long.

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Putting the blame squarely on injuries and lack of fitness is wrong.
Have a look at Essendon*'s injury list and the players they have available. They still went to Adelaide and put in an EFFORT to get over port by 8 goals.

This club is very adept at excuses now.....

Persecuted mentality.....

Thats what happens.

You cannot rise ontop of things when youre busy making excuses.

Waite will be in next year... and we will be fine..

Whats the go with Gibbs/ Bower/Thornton/Russell/Kreuzer/Jamison/Garlett etc???

Theyre all down on form and confidence

Theyre not injured.... Kreuzer might be but the coach could have rested him weeks ago...

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Maybe Gibbs Bower Thornton Russell jamison Garlett and Kruezer etc are not as good as we all think they are

If you asked who should remain on our list next year and who should go most people would only list 1 maybe 2 of the players that dished up that rubbish on Friday night

Our entire team lacks consistancy in both effort and performance they accept losing far to easily and because there is such a wide gap between our best 15 or so players and our bottom 15 certain players just slip into cruise control as they know that they wont be the ones to cop it
The week before the pies game the blow torch was put squarely up the clacker of some bug names at carlton and they all came out and preformed as we know they can . The moment the heat was turned down after a win they slipped back into their old ways

The difference in Kruez Gibbs Robbo Jamo Yarran Garlett Betts Carrotts Scotland from the pies game to the north game were miles apart

I dont think Ratts is a leader of men but Parkin thinks he is the best tactical student of the game out there
Our problem is getting the players up each week and getting to take ownership of their own performance because at the moment they can dish up tripe and the blow torch is directed at the coach and the administration when clearly you can see after last week it is not coaching that is the issue as they players collectively proved they can beat the best in the comp

How you fix people attitudes I dont know

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Most effective way to address attitude change is to have strong leadership. Something we apparently don't have at this point of time.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Yeah noone is any good.

even though they have all shown enought os uggest they are.

Maybe Ratts is a super coach who cannot extract anything out of a team of duds.

Regardless.... recruitment is shit.. lets just keep super coach Ratten.



the truth is.. were hopeless all over the place ... but not all of our players are totally shit....

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Good article but not exactly at loggerheads with people calling for Ratts head. It's been said repeatedly sacking Ratts and doing nothing else would achieve bugger all. We are getting recruiting wrong (unbalanced list) and development as well. From 2008-11 all the players had shown enough to show what their capable of, this may be the dark before the dawn, but it won't happen by doing exactly what we have been doing.
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Ratts biggest problem as a coach is being too reactive and not looking at the bigger picture during a match. Seems he and the MC come up with some good ideas going into a match, but when anything goes wrong we get stupid moves like Hendo to defense on Friday night. Malthouse is more into teaching and looking more long term and wouldn't of made the change.

I do believe Ratts problems are made worse by lack of security with his job, which is why I think we should make a decision quickly as to whether he will stay or go. Uncertainty over his future leads to bad stop gap decisions.