Wall's now saying he's certain Ratts will coach out this year and next.

That comment seems to surprise his co-hosts.

And next!!??

Shit, why not just give him a 5 year extension and a pay rise?

and a Bentley, don't forget the Bentley!!

Sheehan thinks no chance of Ratten coaching Carlton next year, change could be sooner.

I'll be mighty pissed if we just instantly appoint MM. Whether it works or not, just show we haven't learnt our lessons and conduct something that resembles an interview process.

You jump through less hoops becoming coach of Carlton than you do getting a job as a shelf stacker

It's the Carlton way...get the chequebook out.

Yes but there are other considerations at play. Will Malthouse be interested if he has to go through an interview process and justify himself. Also, a rumour I have heard is that Malthouse, if he does come, wants to do it his way. Someone said that he wants to bring Derek Hine across with him. Would that be harder to do if Malthouse himself has not been guaranteed the position?

It's difficult to criticise from the outside. We don't really know what's going on. All we know is Malthouse has been a successful coach across 2.5 decades and left both West Coast and Collingwood in excellent positions in terms of their list.

You're right he probably wouldn't be interested in an interview process...I would be amazed if Collingwood let Hine go.

Why wouldn't we interview Scott Burns or Leigh Tudor? We never seem to give ourselves a chance.

In the end Rattten will be the patsy-fall guy-for more deep seated problems, but he definitely has to go.
The board need to shoulder responsibilty for appointing him and extending his contract but they also need to take reponsibilty for a whole lot more; the problems run much deeper.

We are imitators not innovators, in every regard, both on and off the field. e.g. the press-we saw how effective that was last night. Good a couple of years ago-redundant now. A trend emerges and we jump on board instead of starting the trend. Next year we will bulk up. DER!
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Collingwood has the Ray Croc ' turn key method'. Basically an employee can go fron one Mcdonalds store to another and be able to slot right in and know what to do. Collingwood loses a foot soldier and replaces them with another who knows what to do and fits in to their "turn key method' eg. Ball goes down Sidebottom or Beams step in. Carazzo or Murphy go down and who do we bring in?

In the back ground, however, they are developing their players so Sidebottom and Beams were ready. If the same players were at our club they be swimming in the same contimated water that exists now. Player development at Carlton=poor. I'd really be interested to see what type of player Kane Lucas would be if he were at Collingwood. I'm guessing playing good footy in the seniors.

Collingwood lose a truck-load of assistant coaches and change their senior coach and it's business as usual. Collingwood have a truck-load of injuries and it's business as usual.

Greg Swan you came from that environment, you are on top dollar, you are our CEO, but none of these structures seem to be in place at Carlton. Why? Are you hiding? Haven't heard from you in a while.

At season's end the whole club needs to audited from top to bottom and performance evaluated by an external organisation. Unfortunately board members are like pollies, eager to maintain power and protect their patch, rather than doing what's best for the club or country. I stopped voting years ago.

Our aim should be to return to being the best run club in the country with the best development program and the rest will take care of itself, otherwise a new coach will simply just buy the board more time but the foundations will still be crumbling under foot.

I think the point is that where we are this season is not where any of us expected to be.
This is very disappointing & can understand the emotions of some, even if they are getting slightly pointy in their criticisms.


What we need now are cool heads.
The team is not where we want it.
Is it the recruiting?
Is it the development?
Is it the coaching?
Is it the culture?
Is it the players attitudes?
Is it just injuries and bad luck?

Big responsibility for Sticks to sort it out - but also Swann.
Not sure any one move in isolation will fix everything.

Right now Shane Rogers, Cazzesman and the whole team have a massive opportunity to regroup, knuckle down, and find us some gems to bolster the list & get us competitive again.

I'm sure they are all working harder than ever to pull rabbits out of hats, and frankly to me it seems like a job that requires cool heads & dispassionate analysis so I'm glad that Caz & the team are not losing composure & focusing on the big picture.

Keep up the hard work

grro the entire world has issues and most are life and death minute by minute. Some on here seem to think the end of the world is near because CFC is struggling. The vitriol and hatred in the posts of many beggars belief.

People need to get a life, pure and simple. I understand people need to have a passion and a hobby and it is mine, but for goodness sake supporters need to just get a grip on reality.

It is 2 hours in a week out of 168 hrs. Show some perspective for goodness sake. It's a piece of leather moved from 1 end to the other, that's all it is. A large portion of the world population doesn't have enough to eat or pot to piss in.

Regards Cazzesman

Well clearly Ratts is Jekyll to Hyde.