Carrots, Russell, Scotland & Thornton all due to return apparently.

Awesome, that would be like WCE getting Kennedy, LeCras, Embley, and Nikoski back.





Wouldn't it?

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Not really - we still have Murphy, Laidler and Waite out.

I think they are the 3 most important to our team as well.
Laidler absence should not be underestimated.

Waite is our most important player because he straightens up the forward line like no other at the club at this point in time.
We are way down in contested marking.
I have not seen one timely lead down the middle from a tall in like 6-7 weeks
I have not seen one timely lead from a forward from a clearance then goal in 6-7 weeks.

Yep agree JS. Laidler has become our back 6 leader. He marshells the troops. Amazing but true.

I thought Scotland had a 3 week injury, cant see him being back before the bye. Carrots is the huge in, have missed him terribly.

Sickens me watching the development of these collingwood kids...crazy that Beams, Sidebottom, Blair etc are not even their youngsters anymore but part of their senior core. Now its Fasolo, Sinclair, Elliot that are the next crop and already looking scary good.

We are so far off the mark unfortunately...

Caught afew mins of that Collingwood show on foxfooty. They showed Rocca and their development coach (forget his name) sitting with all the 18, 19 yr olds watching the Suns v Pies game in a box, and this young group of players were made to take notes on the game, report quarter by quarter on their observations re gameplan, each focus on several players they are made to watch (usually similar to them that they could come in and replace) and give feedback on what they think they are doing well/poorly.

That is exactly the kind of innovation the Pies possess and is certainly part of the reason their kids come in and make an immediate impact. Highly doubt we'd be doing anything remotely similar.

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Carlton did exactly the same thing at the Freo vs Richmond game. Lots of clubs are doing it.

Not innovative at all in relation to Collingwood, its just that you saw them doing it

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Amazing isnt it???

Classy clubs.... classy teams

Clueless clubs... clueless teams...

Your team is an overall reflection of the club.

I look at what Sidebottom and Beams in particular are doing and im blown away.

They didnt start their careers as better footballers than Gibbs...

Thats how you win flags!!!!... you teach your youngsters the game .. and put your belief in them....!!!

Theyre finding A graders..... ffrom a- and b and c grade draftees.

We draft A grade draftees and turn them into b and c graders.

Whats happened to Bower and Russell and Lucas and Yarran..Gibbs . and whoever???

What happened to Judd...???Took a few years to catch Carltonitis... but hes copping it too...

Snakes and ladders......snakes and ladders... either we flush them down the toilet.. or even if they go up.. it catches up with them and they slide down that Carlton slippery slope of mediocrity some people love!!!

If you want a flourish AFL career dont get drafted by the Carlton footy club... !!!

Watching the game today pissed me off....!!!

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All clubs are doing this.

Baz, they could have been sitting in the stands watching the game having a laugh with one another, like all teams do YES. Were they doing this behind glass? Did they have pen and paper in hand? Were they made to give realtime feedback one by one? Under the guise of assistant coaches/development coaches? Were they watching their OWN team? Doing a critical analysis on their OWN teammates? Trying to understand their OWN teams gameplan?

Highly doubt it.

The differences might sound petty and subtle, but clearly it makes a difference. Our approach vs Collingwood's approach is symptomatic of our 'near enough is good enough' demeanour which is plain for all to see in how we play (see GWS, Port, Adelaide games not to mention the others) while Collingwood try to do most things both on and off the field to their maximum potential. They don't need any external motivation and when they cross the line it doesn't matter if they are playing GC or Geelong, they dont have to suffer 3 poor performances in a row to pull their finger out. Sad but true.

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Ok Dooky Ill spell it out as I know it.
Prior to each game, infact about 2-3 weeks ahead the younger players are given the game and the player they are to report on around particular criteria. This criteria is set by the developemnt coaches
and they report around player movement on field, player strengths, comparisons to other reports they done, strengths , weaknesses, possibilties for their game and challenges.

Standard sort of fair really that you would expect from clubs.

I actually have had the belief for some time and posted here previously about Collingwoods development academy. It ramped up about 4-5 years ago and actually puts the new players, rookies, and draftees back to full time school. I had hoped that Richardson was duplicating that for Carlton. The guys I talk to dont say much about the academy that Carlton has but the reporting stuff on games and players is accurate as it has been told to me. Probabaly more in depth than I have said above.

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So true Synners...and it kills me. Such poor player management/development, and unfortunately if they aren't managed properly in the first year or two it just snowballs.....

Watching the poise and football nous of Sidey and Beams, I could just never imagine a 4th year Carlton player playing like that! FFS Russels a top 10 pick in his 8th year at our club. 8th!!!!! Are you kidding me?

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Our recruiting isnt that bad. Actually it is quite good. Our player development is woeful.

Nah, sorry.
Waites as guilty as anyone of leading into the pockets. Henderson is more inclined to lead into the corridor but they're both behind our premier leading forward.
Eddie Betts.

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You would probably rave about Ellard if he was playing his game in a Collingwood jumper.

I guess Robinson, Yarran, Henderson, Gibbs, Murphy, Jamison, Garlett and Kreuzer haven't played like that in their fourth seasons.

Pies can put good ordinary players into their structure and get them to play their roles. They even did it with Anthony who kicked fifty goals before going backwards. This doesn't make them A graders like some believe. Best example is Dawes who looks like he's going down the same road as Anthony.

I've asked you 3 times for a source for this statement. If I didn't know you better I would assume you made it up. Unless you know this for a fact, I seriously doubt it's true.

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