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Truth be known he probably tries to keep all his investments confidential

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"I had to eat"

But you know and I know that they will

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"I had to eat"

AFL clubs are funded by pokies and CFC is no different. Reads like sensationalism to the fullest. If Judd invested through his companythen CJ the name doesnt have to be disclosed I don't think- it's already disclosed through ASIC.

Non story

Did this really make front page?

I mean $0 provided to Wyndham City Council for building roads in the outer west isn't a real story is it?

Whilst I don't think there's necessarily any legal issue here (unless there's a legal issue I don't understand - which is not unlikely) I think it's all pretty sad.

Judd and other sports people like him are paid way over the mark in our current system (along with CEOs and other cauliflower) and I wouldn't have a problem with his investment (In what is clearly a crap industry that preys on the weakest in society) if he was happy to stand up for his right to do so in the way that Bruce Mathieson does. I don't like Bruce's business but it's legal and it's what he does.

Fair enough.

The problem with Judd trying to hide this investment is that it does show a level of hypocrisy (that has nothing to do with green politics... ) that wouldn't be there if he just fronted up and said "I don't have a problem with pokies and I'm happy to invest in them" but also exposes the stupidity of anyone in the public sphere trying to hide anything.

I love Judd and on one level there's nothing to see here but on another it's all a bit tawdry and sad.

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Everyone makes mistakes..

But I dont think that his catalogue of mistakes are all that large compared to others - there are many with more and far bigger errors..

It is also clear that he is obviously not entirely comfortable with this investment and that he clearly understands the wider issues..

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Yeah and Mussolini was less of a cauliflower than Hitler...

In what way is it clear that he understands the "wider issues"?

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Simple dot joining -

The fact that he

1. Could be reasonably presumed to be a literate person who reads things like newspapers - and would therefore be across the evils of poker machines.

2. That he has acted in a way to try to shield his poker machine investment from the public.


It would also be likely that someone with the profile of Judd would have got into such an investment in the first place by way of contact with people (possibly connected with the club) but definately either directly or indirectly associated with the gaming industry.

It is also possible, and even quite likely that this might be something that he could later regret doing.

There are plenty of people who later experience a 'what was I thinking' moment but dont suffer immediate crucifixion for this - out of a sense of fairness..

Obviously there are some people here that simply dont want to give Judd the benefit of any kind of doubt over his motives in this area..

But surely a person who is clearly of good character at the very least deserves this??

If someone like Peter Slipper is entitled to a presumption of innocence - Then it surely seems a just,fair and reasonable thing to also extend this same courtesy to Chris Judd???

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Now that you mention it....

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Depends on who "they" is. If you're referring to actual authorities who govern this sort of thing, they won't.

If, on the other hand, you're talking about idiots like KB, BF and Johnno from Mill Park, then yes they will.

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Great comparison.

Judd trying to keep his investments private has to be linked to a cover up to sell the story to the "thinkers" out there.

Ben Butler is a great journalist...

http://www.australiasworstjournalist.co ... ben-butler

http://www.australiasworstjournalist.co ... ben-butler

http://www.australiasworstjournalist.co ... ben-butler

I guess Caro wasn't willing to touch this story with a forty foot pole. This sort of story would usually have the Chief Football Writer's name beside it or listed as a contributor.

I am not sure what you are getting at here.
His philosphy on all his investments might well be the same, I want a return on my money and I want my investment to be private.
It's his money, he has earn't it and he can invest it in what ever way he likes and if he chooses to keep his investments private then so be it.
The only thing that is stupid is if you think that it is not ok to keep this investment quiet but it is ok to keep his other investments quiet.

Has Judd ever commented about pokies re social issues or whatever?

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Since the Age has exposed this shatterring news. Ever since the float, I have owned Woolworths shares and Woolworths is Oz's biggest pokies operator. I know it makes me a hypocrite and unworthy person but they are bloody good shares tbh.

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Judd's investments are a private matter for him,

He can do whatever he likes with his money.

The opportunistic grubs and muckrakers in the media routinely invoke the excuse of the public interest in a cheap attempt to order to boost circulation or ratings.

They are well aware of what they are doing when they write stories like this.

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If it was James Hird you'd all be all over it like Lance at a pie night.

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For the sanctimonious, Judd plays a sport which makes a lot of money from gambling, and is very heavily entwined with many of the larger gambling agencies. By the high standards you set, surely Juddy has to give up the game immediately, or he will be a hypocrite if the highest order.

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