Is it just me, or should Lonergan be sighted for what I see as a malicious attack on the man with no intention to do anything but injure Carrazzo. I thought it was a disgusting effort on Lonergan's behalf. Isn't this what the league want to stamp out of tackling methods? Time to start making noise about it to make sure this prick goes for it.

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Wrong. So so very wrong. We play a suicidal form of the press, and we could serve ourselves so much better by tweaking it. If you're positioning yourselves only in the attacking part of the ground and the opposition don't have 15+ players their defensive side of the centre square, you're doing it wrong in AFL football.

In soccer you can set an offside trap; we need more numbers supporting that last line to ensure that there isn't a regular scenario where someone sends it 55-60m over the heads of the 1 or 2 defenders capable of making a play so they get an uncontested mark, or allow a simple forward surge.

It's accounting for half of our goals easily, and I don't buy into it being the by-product of the game style, merely a lack of capacity to implement a version that compensates for the tactical nuances of our game.

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Free kick. No more than that.

This is what shits me the most about our performance today. They went out to hurt us and carrots was a prime example... driven into the ground in a tackle knowing it would only be a free kick. There were plenty of other similar occurrences.

All we did to counter was to give away high contact free kicks

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Just had a quick look at the replay (before I delete from IQ) and Lonergan had no intention but to hurt. Malthouse decribes it as a "very very rank tackle" and he is spot on. Disgraceful effort

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Sucked in, and didn't retaliate by pulverising the front running cowards when we had the opportunity. Suffered for it. If there wasn't a football to chase, a lot of blokes in that red sash would have run the other way in the same situations.

Anyway, 4 injuries on the day did not help our cause or our rotations, but we cannot look past the application of our club's current philosophies on football, or the mentality the players brought to the contest. It's a lesson on many things this week, and I will be so angry if it is not heeded this season because it will cost us a Grand Final appearance.

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Definitely agree with this....we screwed up with selections this week....Mclean coming in when we lost a speedster in Army was mystifying against a team that predictably likes to run through the middle of the ground....and Diugan is very slow and whilst a tough nut im not sold on his best 22 status....if JR can find some form he should replace him IMO....our game plan requires pace....especially against these predictable scum bags....as Jimmae pointed out maybe the game plan does need tweaking cuz if we are marginally down on runners we will get exposed going the other way....

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Outplayed & outcoached!!!

Couple of questions...

1. Did we see Brock play his last game for Carlton today?

2. Why the hell did we refuse to man up the loose man in defence?

Couple of observations...

1. Stats will show game was pretty even (clearances, contested possessions, inside 50s, tackles etc). Difference was the way they were able to use spare and attack into open forward line whereas we were constantly forced to go inside 50 to an outnumbered contest!!! Drove me crazy!!!

2. Do we have a plan b if we can't find space out the back for our little guys to run on to ball?

3. You don't test your depth when things are all going well! Needed a few to step up today and Brock, ed, duigs et all didn't really pass the test?

4. Afl footy will certainly get you if you get ahead of yourself

A reminder we're still capable of playing bad football.

Take the lessons that need to be learned from it and throw the tape out.

No point dwelling on this one.

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What makes the good teams great is your bottom five or six players.
If they can do their job and be good players that's what makes the difference. Today we were exposed in this area.
Bower: limited player hasnt developed as I though he would might. Lacks strength and is still like a deer looking into the headlights when he has ball. Fast running out of patience with this guy

Hampson: big guys developed later on however Hampson doesnt have natural footy smarts unlike say Tuohy who is a late starter as well
Duigan: cant question this guy's endeavour but his kicking is shit. Not up to AFL standard Isnt tall enough to be a key positon player
Curnow: was injured today, but he lacks class . Too slow and skills not good enough for a player of his pace and height
McLean simply too slow and the game has passed him by.
Onto other matters
Ellard should be ahead of those last two. He is a better player with better kick on him. He kicked 15 goals from 19 games last year. He brings more to the table as an in and under midfielder.

The guy who should have replaced Armfield was Joseph and he should have started on Stanton.
I personally like Joseph as a player. Cant believe he didnt play. Adds pace and mongrel to the team.

The lack of a power forward is a massive concern and stood out like dogs balls today.

Waite is the most frustrating footballer to watch

And Bryce Gibbs need not look into the mirror tonight because not a hair from his new hair style would be out of place after todays pathetic effort.

Make that the opposition.

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Stanton allowed to run around alone 30 odd uncontested disposals ..wow!!!
Essendon* allowed to play with loose men in defence when we had to win the game... wow!
Bryce Gibbs not challenged in the centre ... when we lack midfield depth .. wow!
The press too shallow and getting caught on the fast break time and time again...with no real sweeper.. wow!!..
Brock McLean the chosen impact player off the bench... wow!!!(Must have been really confident for this one)

just some of the weirdarama that was up on display today

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Synbad and Keogh turning up after a loss......WOW!!!!













Only joking I expected you to turn up, tell us boys "what have been upto over the last few weeks?"

Kills me too agree, but I must. Bizarro day.

McLean should never play afl again, but if he does, not in the same team as Curnow.

Non-selection of a Joseph or similar odd given form of Jetta, plus other smalls in, and no Armfield.

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through gritted teeth - well done Essendon*

beaten at the selection table

beaten in the coaches box

beaten in the ruck

beaten in the midfield

beaten in defence

beaten in the forward line


LEARN FROM IT and move on..........

There will be a whole lot of people saying people like me are negative but this is not a premiership team. The coaching staff have no plan b. there are times you lose in the mid field and a game plan revolving around tall forwards is required

Why did Waite play between wing and half forward until the third qtr
Why wasn't yarran pushed into the midfield by the second qtr?
Why are bower Jamison given stints forward before Kreuzer?
Why wasn't Gibbs pushed forward?
using betts as the go to man should be a shock tactic not something you do 3 times a qtr?

Warnock is a better ruck than Hampson but bite the bullet and play Kreuzer as a full forward.
We need to give some young talls a go.
Bye bye Brock
Well done dons....we were full strength

Have been on here. Giving credit where credits due.
Fact is we were pantsed today and had McLean as the sub. Ratten has to admit he [REDACTED] up on this one and move on from Brock. Stanton wouldnt have got 36 touches if Joseph had played.

Can't argue with most of that - particularly the hair bit. I wish they'd shave their heads again and stop trying to be One Direction.

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had easter x 2
and besides we played last years wooden spooner duo and a team on their knee.

Cant really crack a 'woody' unless youre tested and you pass Lily.
No joy in hubris with some flat track bullying...
I know you dont agree.. but this was a game that was a must!!...
Yes .. no???

I bet you told all your friends we were gunna wipe the floor with them.. right???

WOW!

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Lick our wounds and prepare for Friday night Freo.
Forecast at this stage is 29 and a shower or two, so a fast deck is in order.
Ins:
AJ
Armfield (if fit)
Walker

Outs:
Carrazzo (inj)
Mclean (omit)
Yarran (inj)

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!