Spot on.
Gibbs was used poorly I thought.


Even with the crap intensity, I thought we battled well enough in the midfield to make a game of it despite losing Carazzo.

The reason we lost today was not being switched on - no confidence, indecision, panic entering the 50.

We can only hope it was a one-off, but having injuries going to Freo is not good.

The sky didn't fall. We move on and focus on next week. The season is a marathon not a sprint.

Agreed we needed his polish up fwd but the move was never made
Missed Army today

Very disappointed that after talking the talk all week, they didn't walk the walk. Team work? Intensity? Defensive pressure? Working for each other? Four quarters?

Players showed they have still learned nothing over the last 5 years. Bombers gave a lesson in how to play with heart.

Weak insipid performance from players and the lack of reaction to the extra man on the ball early on from the coaching staff.

Tipping that won't happen. Jammo has a few credits in the bank. Thornton needs to come in to provide and extra marking option forward. Can't rely on ruckman going forward and kicking goals all the time leaving just Waite as our main KP player up there. Worse when Waite couldn't hit the side of a barn door from point blank range. Plus it's much better than swinging Bower back and forth, who has no idea how to play forward. With Laider possibly out Bower will need to stay in defence next week anyway. Wouldn't be rushing Walker back. Let him get match conditioning first.

Not that much would've matter today

What makes you think that? At the start of the last quarter it was something like 3 on 2 in their forward line versus 9 on 8 in our forward line. The loose player further up the ground should mean that we're not kicking the ball into the forward line under much pressure.

I don't know if we were saving it up for an occasion where it actually mattered a little more, but we should obviously have matched Fletcher up with Robbo in a tight tag. The real issue is not so much the extra numbers, which you get in most games these days, but who you leave free.

Thanks for making my week an average one blues. Expected a harder effort than that

Training load defence is usually my area cimm. Not sure i could write it up today unless they thought we would get through today after a tough week on the track, will most likely lose to freo anyway, will get passed GWS and then we would be set for a good lump of wins. leaving us with something like 8-1. Not too crazy a plan really if they did go that way. If they did it backfired.

We didnt look good though. Very tired and lazy effort.

Id say the bombers second half last week was heavy training load influenced.

I have my theories with training loads and believe most teams (not so much the bottom ones) look at the fixture and time their peaks and troughs to get the best result at the end of the season. I am studying it closely this year.

I'll be vaguely over it in a couple of days. It's the 'ruining my weekend' that I object to.

Credit to the Dons but overall I thought it was a terrible game. During the 3rd qtr some of the stuff ups from both teams were just dreadful.

They had us worked out pretty well though, crowded the stoppages much more than the Pies did. We just couldn't get much clean ball, & when we did we stuffed it up. Watson & Stanton just murdered us (galling about the latter who I don't rate). I thought we were overrated by the win over Coll (but still expected to win comfortably).

Duigan looked very out of sorts to me. Waite was perplexing, marked well but just couldn't buy a goal. Having said that Crameri missed some easy ones for them so we can't use bad kicking as an excuse.

After having our depth talked up all week it'll be tested now. Let's hope Laidler's knee isn't too bad. If it is it's another classic Carlton medical staff move

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Only saw the last quarter at the pub as it was not shown on TV in Adelaide and I don't have Foxtel, but it looked like we were having a go, which probably didn't happen in the first three quarters. I am always anxious when we go into a game as raging favourites. Despite Ratten's assertion during the week that we are now mature enough to get over the hype - clearly we are not. Injuries are no excuse - Essendon* had plenty out, although we lost a few during the game. The same thing happened to them last year against us. Hopefully the injuries are not long term as our depth is pretty slim at present from all reports.

Ruthless is not a term we can use for carlton yet its a shame im hoping we learn from today and realize if your off your game you will lose,
even to the lowest of low like today.

Back from the game, what a poor display.

Seemed everything that could go wrong did go wrong - but it all seemed to start in the centre square and around the clearances. We were just carved up.

Worst 3 quarters I have seen in a while, my little bloke was shattered watching that crap, at least a bit more respectable in the last.

Was amazing how many goals they scored on the rebound in to an open forward 50. Something majorly wrong tactically there. When we got it on the rebound we didn't score. Hopefully learnt something from that.

There forwards took us to the cleaners even without Hurley doing anything much.

Unfortunately I was impressed with their ball use.

Will be interesting to see what we dish up next week....

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Incredibly disappointing, that's three years in a row that we have gone in favourite in April ag the Dons and three times we have failed to win. This was by far the worst. I said after last week that the Pies game said as much about our weaknesses as our strengths and when we didn't utterly dominate the centre square, in fact were beaten there, our lack of tall forwards showed up as did our weaknesses in defence. Judd and Murph tried, points to Laidler for showing a lot of guts. Hendo battled hard, Betts kicked goals but didn't get much else of the ball and ag missed an easy set shot - he misses too many for a guy with his skill. Our coach needs to instill a fair bit more intent in the team, dropping this game to an inferior side undoes our great game last week, and really we have beaten a quarter strength disinterested Pies and two easybeats, how much have we improved? Terribly soft marking effort by Lucas in third, Brock tried hard but looks about the slowest player in the League. It was arrogance to select him when we lost a quick player. If we genuinely thought he was worth a game today he should be worth one next week, let's see what we do. Duigan looked slow. Love Robbo's courage but is he instructed to kick blind mongrel punts to Essendon* players or did he think that up himself? I actually thought Waite worked hard today but we badly need another tall forward. Walks will come back in but is a medium. When we are throwing Jammo and Laidler forward it says something.

Hated sitting at the G watching us be laughed at, but we were laughable today. Maybe we actually thought we were premiership favourites. Should beat Freeo, they have two or three quality players and a team of battlers, but they do have a really good coach who gets the team to be greater than the sum of their parts. Clearly we weren't that today. We need to be next week and for every week after that. Enough with treading water, when is the great leap forward?

Very disappointing, we were not switched on and were as flat as pancakes. Essendon* did to us what we did to Collingwood last week. Too many feel good stories during the week about us. A huge reality check.

Sadly, I've been saying this for two years. We play a game style where we need to overwhelm the opposition in order to win well.

There's been managers of Real Madrid who have been sacked for bringing that 'overload' philosophy, so I don't see why the club feels encouraged to continue with this iteration of the forward press.

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Tripple post, I am getting stressed about the loss

AJ should have played mc did not put much thought into their small forwards our backs looked slowish today