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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:38 pm 
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Any chance the Eagles could wear an away strip?



Anyone know why the filth wore their black shorts last night against the Swans?

What is the current ruling re shorts?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:39 pm 
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We have no big man forwards that can take a mark. Who are our twin towers?

I don't want us to be the next doggies .


The Hulk has spoken!!

We are in danger of going another 45 years without a flag!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:40 pm 
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We have no big man forwards that can take a mark. Who are our twin towers?

I don't want us to be the next doggies .


The Hulk has spoken!!

We are in danger of going another 45 years without a flag!

Get Riewoldt and Kosi !!



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:41 pm 
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For those that watched the game on TV - what's with a possible headbutting incident involving NicNat?

Houlihan or Thornton thought to be involved...


Thornton head butted NicNat and it was clearly shown on the reply. It wasn't hard....did no damage....but I'm not sure of the ruling on head butts.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Sorry, that's a cop-out and just not good enough. Not a criticism of you.

Today was an almighty wake up call for the club and supporters, myself included.


An "almighty" wake up call? Good to see the Herald Sun by-line editor posting on here. Why was it such a monumental outcome, exactly? What changes in the general scheme of things that wouldn't have changed at 2.09pm today?

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It's not that we were beaten as such, we were comprehensively beaten by an interstate team across the board - 6 goals flattered us tbh.

Our missing personnel are noted but I couldn't believe how badly our structures broke down today. That needs to be worked on if we're to stay in the top 4 let alone a chance in September.


A correlation between personnel and structures could probably be argued, just quietly. The ALP could name their least influential or talented back bencher as PM tomorrow in a leadership spill, but the same parliamentary and party structures remain.

Let West Coast run out of puff by early September. You don't play finals (too often anyway) at Etihad, and their list is both very young and falls away drastically outside of their best 22, as has shown in recent years.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
For those that watched the game on TV - what's with a possible headbutting incident involving NicNat?

Houlihan or Thornton thought to be involved...


It was Thornton.

Hard to say with chooklotto, but I thought he was just trying to get up while NicNat was holding on to him, pushed himself forward and heads colided.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Add Waite, Duigan, Laidler, Robbo, Curnow, Jamo to today's line up we will be fine!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:45 pm 
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I cannot get some of the sky is falling some are posting. I'm not happy the boys lost but give credit where its due. The eagles played awesome today and they deserved to win.

Sorry, that's a cop-out and just not good enough. Not a criticism of you.

Today was an almighty wake up call for the club and supporters, myself included.

It's not that we were beaten as such, we were comprehensively beaten by an interstate team across the board - 6 goals flattered us tbh.

Our missing personnel are noted but I couldn't believe how badly our structures broke down today. That needs to be worked on if we're to stay in the top 4 let alone a chance in September.


Our structure broke down yes but mainly because of an injury to our best kpd, west coast pressure all over the ground, their better disposal into their forward line, our inability to handle their press etc etc. The boys have time to fix such issues, their is still a long way to go this season. When the blues cab replicate quarters like they did against the swans last week in the third, we can be serious contenders. Who is to say that cannot happen at the business end of this season?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:47 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Add Waite, Duigan, Laidler, Robbo, Curnow, Jamo to today's line up we will be fine!


Exactly.
The point is not that we couldn't beat the Eagles,
it's that we couldn't adjust to all the forced changes and find a way to win.

We still have improvements to make.
By next year our list should be chock full of versatility (assuming no major defections)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:47 pm 
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Only concern I have from day is Jamo's injury. Hopefully not too bad.

Don't judge one week, judge over four. Thats what the MC try and do. If we do the same next week and so on it might be time to worry.

My understanding is we are just coming off a heavy training load in preparation for September and there is a few sore players running around at the moment.

IMO this will be easily forgotten in a week or two! :thumbsup:


I agree. The defensive aspect of our game was not very compact at all today and it left us far too easy to play against.

An all knew backline ,a midfield missing its hard edge and an overall vibe of being a bit flat (training loads heavy) gave us little chance against this team on a mission.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:49 pm 
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We lost this at the selection table. McLean clearly should have been an emergency, and as soon as both Curnow and Robinson were out of the mix, he should have been in the side. Austin should have been named from the start. Ellard didn't do anywhere near enough today and I'm really disappointed in his return through the last 3 games.

Armfield deserved his call-up, but showed none of the hard running to present from the previous week in the VFL. The fact that the Bullants were flat yesterday says a lot about how taxed he already was coming into the game.

I think we were generally fine with all bar one of their talls even after Jamison went down, which was a good effort in isolation, but we failed miserably as a team defence unless we madly rolled down (I couldn't believe it when I saw Betts chopping off the incoming ball in the second half).

We didn't kick the ball enough to encourage leads, even leads into traffic just to create some misdirection and a few legal hits to tire the Eagles defenders and mids. We went static and tried to kick it on players heads and it hurt our ball movement immensely. I was personally happy with Houlihan's efforts and his vision and disposal were very welcome today.

And the umpiring was immensely shit. Immensely. As soon as the frees started getting paid West Coast changed their tune, and when they dried up again it was arm chops and throws all-round. Disgracefully blind effort from Jeff's squad of amateur clowns.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:51 pm 
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Blaming the mix of talls for this game is a bit pointless. Jamo going down so early will always throw things out of kilter, but this game was won and lost in the midfield. Most games are these days.

This. Our midfield was belted, hence our defence put under huge pressure to deal with multiple marking targets.
That said, the club should ask the AFL to clarify the rules on holding. How is a player like Judd expected to participate in the game if, at every stoppage, there is someone holding him around the waist or locking his arms with theirs? Takes away any ability to accelerate in to the contest or away from it, means you're are almost always stationary or near to it when you receive the ball, and then they can gang-tackle the shit out of you. Its no wonder he had little effect on the game.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:55 pm 
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BV called it on McLean after selection. What do the MC really think about him? The inside work of Kerr smashed us early and McLean couldn't get a sniff with Robinson and Curnow out after McLean's performance last week.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:56 pm 
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The blind optimism from people this week has staggered me given how events all week just seemed to conspire for us to lose. To compete against West Coast you need the following:
1) An athletic, fit and firing ruck division.
2) 3-4 Decent tall/medium defenders who can take a mark/be 3rd man up
3) Some grunt in the middle to restrict Kerr and Priddis from feeding their runners

What we got:
1) Hampson out for two months, leaving a returning Kreuz and underdone 206 behind
2) No Duigan, Laidler, White, Waite, and then Jamo, leaving behind underdone Austin, and an undersized Thornton
3) No Robinson or Curnow, leaving an almost concussed Ellard and (apparently flu-ridden) Judd who was able to be monstered all day.

In short, we were [REDACTED] (shit, even the hun called us 'depleted' in their headline). God decided we should lose this game. The rest fell like a house of cards from there on.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:00 pm 
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....henderson still shows he belongs at vfl level. not sure how some people on here think he is detrimental to us come finals time.

Don't understand these comments. Please explain. Do you think he's up to it, or not?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:01 pm 
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These days if your intensity & defensive pressure are down you will struggle especially when trying to press. Simply it won't work without those ingredients. I believe there are reasons for it today as I mentioned earlier.

I won't judge players today simply because of this. People will make judgements and IMO it is wrong. Too simplistic.

Even Judd was average today. Is he past it, too slow, soft, worth trading, drop for McLean? :yikes:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:04 pm 
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Im really bemused why Bower only got 1 quater of football and then they decide to go with Austin this week
i would have thought Bower would have picked up the pace a bit quicker than Austin.
Hope Bower gets the nod soon so he can get with the pace before finals!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:05 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
These days if your intensity & defensive pressure are down you will struggle especially when trying to press. Simply it won't work without those ingredients. I believe there are reasons for it today as I mentioned earlier.

I won't judge players today simply because of this. People will make judgements and IMO it is wrong. Too simplistic.

Even Judd was average today. Is he past it, too slow, soft, worth trading, drop for McLean? :yikes:


Point taken however by his own standards, Judd has had an average month.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:07 pm 
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I don't think we were as brave as Essendon* today :cry:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:08 pm 
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I'd be much more concerned if we had better team in

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