That Kreuzer sure is a top bloke....




Yesireeeeeee....

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#GUILTY

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Doesn't it just kill you...?

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I want to know what offer you made him.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Still attacking the poster I see - no arguement as to why they should stay

This is why AFL is the only game in the world where the CEO is the highest paid person in the game

The Melbourne bubble

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Do you actually Barack for Carlton Sydney? I mean you want all our players to leave our great club for the money. Suppose you are not enjoying our current success and want the club to go backwards by losing these players you want to leave? Just a question....

Well, our players leave for the money...and we should be able to buy players from other clubs as well....we could actually be barracking for Geelong or the Pis in a couple of years.

Sydney Blue, agree with you about the M bubble.....well perhaps the AFL bubble of which Mel is a key part....(you could argue that too a degree SA and WA have similar AFL saturation issues)

but if you are referring to Mr Beckham ( i might be wrong), his was past his best when leaving Real Madrid. I would also add that part of the reason the English Football side has struggled is because of the inflated image its players are flattered with.

I told him it was a simple choice of a life of riches and hanging out with Sydney Blue or poverty and the Carlton Football Club.

He laughed in my face.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

No I have said all along that I am glad that the players are staying my arguement is that they are given the wrong career advice - Football careers are short -they work hard train hard and one thing goes wrong its all over - They should take their chance to earn whatever they can when it arises -there is no sure thing that staying at Carlton will get them a premiership medal

Is it any wonder players are making these decisons when people like Ricky Nixon are managing them

I love seeing Carlton win but I hate seeing any players from any side knocking back big money offers out of so called loyalty - Because the loyalty only goes one way

If someone comes into my office at work and says I have been given a better offer and it is a lot more - I dont try talk them into staying - i wish them all the best and tell them to look after themselves first


Josh Kennedy was loyal just signed a two year deal - Something better come along and it was bye bye Josh - Could have ruined him but thankfully it hasn't

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As long as it wasn't a Zac Dawson/Nick Hreeeeee-voldt like offer.......


ALLEGEDLY.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Maybe playing for a AFL club is a bit like being in a Battalion. You train hard with your mates, party with them and go to 'battle' with them. This forges a bond that is stronger and one that is more important than money.

I have mates that I served with back in the day that I am still in contact with and I know that ex AFL players often keep in touch with those they played with. I know I have a strong loyalty still to my old unit, but not to any of my employers that I have had since I got out.

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L.M 35-06

So what you are saying is the AFL uses the same tactics on it's players as Generals do to convince young blokes to go over the top and put their lives on the line whilst they sit back in the comand room

You have it in one - Given bad advice

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A career in football is about winning premierships, not about making the most money possible. Gun players are still well paid. If money was the sole motivating factor, all the good players would move clubs after every contract, because they will always be paid more to move.

Can you think of any one-club, premiership players who at the end of their career think, gee, i wish I'd changed clubs for more money instead of winning premierships?

I can think of definitely one player who was a two-club player who switched for cash, and if he had have stayed loyal, would have finished with 3 premiership medallions....

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

How many get to play for the team they support

the AFL is a business

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dig UP stupid

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

"Over the Top" how quaint.

Most of the officers and NCOs I had served with had done the hards yards in Vietnam, Malayasia and in a couple of cases Korea. Respected them a hell of a lot and would have followed them into hell if need be.

As for my mates, simple really if one rocked up on my door needing a place to crash and a feed. No problem. Done deal.

The Kruze chose mateship over money and I respect him for that.

As for Kennedy, I do not know of one Carlton person who doesn't wish him all the best and I know he is welcome at the club any time he chooses to visit.

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L.M 35-06

I am happy to say that I do not wish him all the best next week.

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