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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:36 am 
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jimmae wrote:
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hang on ...

why is Russell in doubt for round one? I don't remember hearing he was injured...

Didn't play. Could have been illness or a niggle - not sure at all - but he didn't suit up.


I think we have all forgotten already he had some surgery on his hip late last year and spent the early part of pre-season in the re-hab group.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:25 am 
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A good assessment Jim but I cant agree on Warnock. I thought his ruckwork was average and he seemed more intent on avoiding contact than feeding his on ballers. Scott Thompson sharked 75% of his hitouts. I thought Hampson won more ball in the middle and provided more mobility and physical presence around the stoppages.
A big step up from Hammer IMO.

A few players seemed heavy in the legs. Gibbs didn't get out of 2nd gear and Simmo was uncharacteristic in his approach to the ball at times. Laidler reads the play well but footspeed appears a concern. The most impressive aspect of the day was seeing Yarran back into a couple of contests. I've been critical of him in the past for ducking his head but he did himself proud today.
His lateral movement and ability to accelerate are fantastic to watch and coupled with his ball use on both sides, he'll be a real weapon across half back. The challenge for Yaz will come when opposition coaches refuse him that freedom. I look forward to seeing how he deals with it. He was the crowd favourite on the day.

Does anyone have any feedback on how the Bullants fared?


I agree BV. Hampson was far better in my opinion. We won more clearances with him in the ruck and he took some nice marks around the ground and crashed some packs around CHF that helped set up goals. He may have missed a few he got his hands to but Warnoch wasnt getting his hands to any to miss. I agree with Jimmae that Hampson wasnt involved much in the first half but he fired up in the second.

Thought Warnoch's ruck work wasnt that good but his opponents were trying lots of ways, often illegal ways of stopping him.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:33 am 
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Out of these 4, Russell, Houlihan, Carrazzo and McLean, which do you guys think will be right for round 1?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:41 am 
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Vision of the Jamo bump

Doesn't look good. Was accidental, for sure, but the AFL are all over these types of hits as we know.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:16 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
A good assessment Jim but I cant agree on Warnock. I thought his ruckwork was average and he seemed more intent on avoiding contact than feeding his on ballers. Scott Thompson sharked 75% of his hitouts. I thought Hampson won more ball in the middle and provided more mobility and physical presence around the stoppages.
A big step up from Hammer IMO.I agree BV. I thought Hammo dominated last night especially in the second half. I made a mental note that he seemed to turn the corner last night. His contested mark and goal were classic. I felt he got over his own self-doubt. Hopefully he will blossom from this point and stamp himself as our lead ruckman

A few players seemed heavy in the legs. Gibbs didn't get out of 2nd gear and Simmo was uncharacteristic in his approach to the ball at times. Laidler reads the play well but footspeed appears a concern. The most impressive aspect of the day was seeing Yarran back into a couple of contests. I've been critical of him in the past for ducking his head but he did himself proud today.
His lateral movement and ability to accelerate are fantastic to watch and coupled with his ball use on both sides, he'll be a real weapon across half back. The challenge for Yaz will come when opposition coaches refuse him that freedom. I look forward to seeing how he deals with it. He was the crowd favourite on the day.

Does anyone have any feedback on how the Bullants fared?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:36 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
Vision of the Jamo bump

Doesn't look good. Was accidental, for sure, but the AFL are all over these types of hits as we know.

Accidental doesnt get you off.
Unavoidable gets you off.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:39 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Anyone who saw Yazz play today has to be happy with what is on offer over the next 10 years. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Even Keogh might have enjoyed watching today. :wink:

Perfect game to fine tune for the season ahead. Hard, tough and accountable footy . Just the way we want it in 2011.

Regards Cazzesman


Dont come on here often Cazzeman
Have Fridays off work these days but was at Soundwave otherwise would have journeyed to Prinnie park

Good to see Yarran starting to deliver. Must have worked on is aerobic fitness.

Anyway good to see you havent forgotten about me

Oh if you want a good bet bet on Geelong not making the 8


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:40 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Anyone who saw Yazz play today has to be happy with what is on offer over the next 10 years. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Even Keogh might have enjoyed watching today. :wink:

Perfect game to fine tune for the season ahead. Hard, tough and accountable footy . Just the way we want it in 2011.

Regards Cazzesman


still trolling I see...

...I agree though Yarran's developing beautifully :grin:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:45 am 
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Unfortunately the way the rules are written Jamo is in trouble. If you choose to bump and make head high contact you are guilty. It's a shame because he needed to shepard but thats the new rules.

So who will take his spot? Watson, Austin, White? Please dont put Waite down there we need him forward.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:52 am 
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Agree - I reckon he's gone which is a major blow to our side, the rules are there and an accident just wont cut it :sad:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:58 am 
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good record he will 2. The only thing on his side is that the ball was within the 5m zone. He was clearly trying to stop his opponent getting to the ball carrier who was close by.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:02 am 
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makes sense that you can get reported in a practice game - however to be consistent subsequent practice games should be included in the penalty


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:02 am 
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I support the AFL in most rule changes but I cant come to terms with the bump rule. Players are taught from a young age to protect the ball carrier and as long as the elbow is tucked in and the ball is within 5 metres, it should be play on. There must be some form of responsibility on the chasing player to have some awareness of what's going on around him.
This is one rule that is driven by fear of litigation in lieu of common sense.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:03 am 
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If he is suspended I'd take 2 weeks have ready for the RD 3 when are up 2 zip ready to take on the Pies.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:06 am 
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Bomba Sheldon wrote:
If he is suspended I'd take 2 weeks have ready for the RD 3 when are up 2 zip ready to take on the Pies.


Agree. Good opportunity to give White a run on the under done Reiwoldt and a youngster from GC.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:11 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
A good assessment Jim but I cant agree on Warnock. I thought his ruckwork was average and he seemed more intent on avoiding contact than feeding his on ballers. Scott Thompson sharked 75% of his hitouts. I thought Hampson won more ball in the middle and provided more mobility and physical presence around the stoppages.
A big step up from Hammer IMO.

I agree with you but the only thing stopping Robbie was Robbie. He was in complete control, even if he wasn't finishing his work particularly well. His physicality was up the whole game, unlike Hammer.

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Vision of the Jamo bump

Doesn't look good. Was accidental, for sure, but the AFL are all over these types of hits as we know.

Accidental doesnt get you off.
Unavoidable gets you off.

That's the weird part, it's never going to be unavoidable (at least not in a literal definition) in the context of an intentional shepherd. But Jamo's arm was mostly tucked in and he didn't jump up or into Henderson, just slowed up and rode the bump. His arm jolted up after the initial contact but made no further contact.

Essentially Henderson's head snapped into Jamison's collar bone upon contact. That's where the 'hit' came from. I think it's unfortunate but in a legitimate attempt to shepherd when you're in a hurry to make the play, that's no where near as brutal as the efforts that saw the AFL change the rules. He made no attempt to run at or through him once he was in position.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:20 am 
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Dont worry aout the arm being tucked in - thats what you worried about in the 70's and 80's when elbows were still flying around. If you want to hurt someone you hit them with your shoulder and the key to that is that makes the intial contact with the ball of the shoulder followed by the rest of the body. It like being punched in the face more or less. Its one of teh easiest ways to knock someone out or if you have the right technique break someones jaw.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:22 am 
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Bomba Sheldon wrote:
Dont worry aout the arm being tucked in - thats what you worried about in the 70's and 80's when elbows were still flying around. If you want to hurt someone you hit them with your shoulder and the key to that is that makes the intial contact with the ball of the shoulder followed by the rest of the body. It like being punched in the face more or less. Its one of teh easiest ways to knock someone out or if you have the right technique break someones jaw.

Jamo's arm was the thing that struck Henderson (and not head high), nothing to do with the point of the shoulder.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:26 am 
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if that gets weeks then the afl is [REDACTED]

was a good strong shepard

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:45 am 
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Contact within 5m and Jamo has no other choice (ie can't tackle as he does not have the ball). Arm tucked in, didn't leave his feet, does not seem excessive in the circumstances. Henderson is chasing and should expect contact. I reckon Jamo is half a chance to get off and at worst contact would be negligent.

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