BigKev wrote:
Mil Hanna wrote:
BlueRob wrote:
What a load of rubish. This is a group of unskilled players would make the best coaches in the world look bad. The number one prority is to turn the list over ... they are mostly not worth persisting with except for about 5 players.
Your complete lack of football knowledge is truly astonishing. It is beond comprehension really.
How did this "group of unskilled players" manage to easily defeat the superpower of the past 3 seasons by using a combination of fast ball movement and exceptional disposal accuracy?
Fluke huh?
Then how did this same "group of unskilled players" back it up with a similar, perhaps slightly more impressive performance against one of the other power teams of the AFL?
Of course, that was a fluke again!!
Look - I don't know whether the major issue lies mostly with the coach, the playing group or a combination of both (most likely scenario), but to keep banging on about the list being a bunch of unskillful hacks that needs to be turned over is just plain bullshit.
Most of the playing group have shown they are phyiscally capable of anything during their time at the club. Now it's the mental, cultural and structural aspects of the team and coaching brigade that we need to get right to ensure they can perform at their peak week-in week-out.
I don't totally agree with BlueRob either Mil, but I fail to see how his post merits the personal attack.
But I don't totally disagree with him either. Have you ever seen me play golf? No, of course not. Man you should've seen my best shot - nearly a hole in one! In fact if I could put together a highlights reel of my best 20-30 strokes I reckon I'd look like a real star. I'm not though. Just a weekend hacker. Too many dud shots intersperse the good ones.
And that's the difference between a footballer who's worth keeping and one who isn't. Sure all the guys on our list are physically capable of playing quality football, but which ones are going to be able to do it week in week out? Personally I think it's a bit early to be throwing them all out bar five - there's heaps of young uns and they take time to develop consistency. But I do agree that there's a few with some big question marks hanging over their head.
But that's the key though Kev - you understand that there are things outside of physical ability which can make or break a player.
BlueRob on the other hand just keeps banging on about a team of "unskilled hacks" which is clearly wrong. Unlike your golf, where you can fluke a good shot here and there, you can't fluke entire games of great disposal and then just lose all your skill and ability entirely the following week. It is still there, but something is preventing it from happening.
Is it mental fragility?
Is it a lack of understanding of the game plan?
Is it a crap game plan that doesn't work?
Is it a game plan that is hard to implement successfully against certain other types of game plans?
Is it that the players don't have enough leadership?
Is it because the core of our playing group is too young?
Is it that the players find it hard to play for their coach or each other?
My guess is that it is a combination of all of the above to varying degrees.
BlueRob however thinks that the simple reality is that we just need to get some more skilled players
At least he could add an ounce of merit to his argument by admitting that it may have something to do with things other than just skill.