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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:49 am 
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Russell should never kick in again.


PLEASE...!

Can't go past this, Russell has been Fantastic kicking out this year, really helped to solve problems we've had in the past.

Some people!!


I agree juzzy. Made that blunder tonight... but...



...had to keep up the weekly average. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:52 am 
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I don't know how fit Setanta was. One of his chases early in the 1st qtr was just...un-Setanta like. He came to the bench looking buggered straight after.


Don't think its helping any of our players that we play week after week on the Sandpit. Another big injury is just waiting to happen. Recovery after games also takes longer.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:23 am 
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Easy win. As expected. Suck it up you folks who thought we'd win by 150. Just because you overestimated by 100 points doesn't mean we have to hear you whinge and whinge and whinge. You got it wrong. Live with it, okay?



Um..no Verbs, you got it wrong. I thought we'd win it by 1000. :?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:42 am 
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Happy actually.

Started slow as anything and when we could miss by hand or foot we did

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we have some class

and I was happy with Griggs effort tonight. 1st game for the year - yep very rusty early but got better and better - thought some of his work in close was good and he often dished out the handball - will get better after that game.

Hammer didn't hold a mark but only once was he outmarked - and often we could have kicked it to him and didn't - still think there is a ton to work with there.


Must say I've thought Jacobs was a bit so so until tonight. Tonight he convinced me - I think this kid will get better and better as he develops his strength. Great battle between him and Luey

Jubb v Black - ahh that's what footy's really about! What a contest!

Hendo will be a @#$%&! ripper player

Yazzz.....oh get him fit and in that midfield cos his hands are just da vinci like!

We were rusty

we won by 9 goals - I'll take that

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:54 am 
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We have a long way to go...got the expected win against a rabble of a team.
Carlos ain't gonna make it sorry Ryan2000 but
he just can't play footy...good win but tiges beat this mob away last week
so perspective...onto next week..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:07 am 
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All the hallmarks of a team playing itself into form. Couldn't hit a target in the first quarter and in the third we had that lovely chain of handballs through the guts from Scotto in defence to Betts for a goal - we were going pretty well at the end and I think the confidence might just be back to normal by the time we get to the Doggies.

Seriously that first quarter of umpiring was the worst I can remember in years. Just so many calls were either ridiculously pedantic or completely and utterly wrong. And pretty much all against us. Despite how shit we were the Brians would not have had a 3 goal lead at 1/4 time had it not been for these clueless idiots.

Jacobs - how many hit-outs straight to Brisbane players standing on their own? He'd be a pretty handy ruckman if he wasn't colour blind :lol: I reckon his work around the ground is getting better by the week though - so maybe we can get someone doing some remedial colour work with young Sammy.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:48 am 
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Great win.

Would like them to go through the corridor a bit more often though.

Thought Scotland had a great game.

Judd, Betts, Jacobs, Simpson, Yarran and Carazzo also played well.

Get those midfield rotations working for next round - get Yarran in there for 5 minute bursts, Betts etc... will be really valuable.

Tackling pressure a bit better this round - didn't think they were reactive to creating pressure, a bit more proactive.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:56 am 
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Pox game...........

Pox umpiring............Pox skills..........Pox game............!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:02 am 
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I agree with Tommi - that game was total bs.

Skills & umpiring were pathetic.

Not for the neutral.

Many boys look very rusty and some others don't belong out there.

Pleased with the win...but nothing to write home about.

Still need a strong marking forward considering Betts is our marking target - farcical.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:52 am 
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CK95 wrote:
I don't know how fit Setanta was. One of his chases early in the 1st qtr was just...un-Setanta like. He came to the bench looking buggered straight after.


Seen him run onto the ground at the very start of the game and he looked to be labouring then.

Ah, the morning after a great win is always a treat, even more so when one lives in Brisbane. :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:22 am 
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tommi wrote:
Pox game...........

Pox umpiring............Pox skills..........Pox game............!


kindest regards tommi







my rice cracker with powdered tahini was more interesting..............!


I nearly nodded off in the last. Shocker of a game, bad skills, crap opposition. The surface has plenty to do with the skill level - The AFL need to fix the problem or start moving games NOW.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:23 am 
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I havent seen the game because i was busy but it seems we were rather disappointing

Would love to see Ellard get a month in the seniors to see how he goes

And I reckon the same for Mark Austin at CHB

I am a huge Carlos fan but maybe he just hasnt learnt the game enough

Play Waite up forward when he returns for the swannies match.

Grigg and Hampson have to play for at least 3 weeks unless they are absolute shite against the doggies

Thornton should have been allowed to go to the dawks 3 years ago.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:37 am 
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Extremely happy with sauce tonight. Played a great game and is severely underrated. Held his own tonight and I reckon he'll only get better. :thumbsup:

What a win and about time!


I thought Sauce was terrible in the 1stQ.
Still lumbers around a bit. He was so and so...OK imo.

You have to compare his output with his opponent's to get a better indication of his performance.
IMO Leuenberger was too fast for him around the ground. The stats tell us Sauce got a bath from the big Leuey.

I'm convinced in this day and age, ruckmen need to be more athletic than what Sause is atm.
He's serviceable. We have to get games into Hammer.
Looks like the combo of Jacobs/Hampson could be the norm if Hammer runs into a bit of form.
Don't go writing Hammer off. He's the one who will surprise many.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:45 am 
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Things that annoyed me last night.

When we have 2 on 1 the CFC player without the ball has to make a decision to either sheppard or run away 10 metres to get the next flow on possession, not stand next to his team-mate so he can be tackled as soon as he gets the ball given to him. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If Setanta stands flat footed and signals for the player to kick it high to him one more time I will scream.....again! GET ON YOUR BIKE SETANTA!!!! Lead to space. If others are in your way, scream at them to get out of your #$%@* way. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If a player wants to have a chance at winning the contested footy in these rugby scrums they have to get in early, hard and low. Army, Simmo, Scotland and Robbo showed how it should be done. Some just aren't prepared to take the hit to get the reward and that annoys the hell out of me. That's what seperates us from the teams above us. More and more of the teams above have 22 plays that are prepared to take the physical hit and Geelong is the bench mark with Selwood. That's also why he gets so many free kicks.

On a brighter note the 3 things that we wanted to work on i.e. play on football, defensive pressure by closing up the oppositions space (by getting in their face quickly) and more rotations to keep the boys fresher, seemed to work better the longer the game went.

Bank the 4 points and move on.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:56 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Things that annoyed me last night.

When we have 2 on 1 the CFC player without the ball has to make a decision to either sheppard or run away 10 metres to get the next flow on possession, not stand next to his team-mate so he can be tackled as soon as he gets the ball given to him. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If Setanta stands flat footed and signals for the player to kick it high to him one more time I will scream.....again! GET ON YOUR BIKE SETANTA!!!! Lead to space. If others are in your way, scream at them to get out of your #$%@* way. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If a player wants to have a chance at winning the contested footy in these rugby scrums they have to get in early, hard and low. Army, Simmo, Scotland and Robbo showed how it should be done. Some just aren't prepared to take the hit to get the reward and that annoys the hell out of me. That's what seperates us from the teams above us. More and more of the teams above have 22 plays that are prepared to take the physical hit and Geelong is the bench mark with Selwood. That's also why he gets so many free kicks.

On a brighter note the 3 things that we wanted to work on i.e. play on football, defensive pressure by closing up the oppositions space (by getting in their face quickly) and more rotations to keep the boys fresher, seemed to work better the longer the game went.

Bank the 4 points and move on.

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Take a becs Caz.There is always a doggies thrashing next week.
I am sure Ratts will address the issues you have raised.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:02 am 
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Usual suspects Houlihan and Thornton Caz...

I think the tempo footy screws us in our mindset to run the ball. I'm not sure how to articulate this properly, other than it's like it's rooted in their subconscious so rather than take the initiative to run and create we get stuck going wide and chipping around even though we're not officially playing tempo footy.

On a positive note, Yarran's class is unquestionable, but to top that for the FIRST time I watched him on two occasions go in hard for a ground ball and rather than twist or maneuver a split-second prior to taking the hit he went straight through and both resulted in the crowd going apeshit in awe. I hope he realises that this is the next step up to him dominating.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:12 am 
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Gee, I didn't think Sauce was terrible. 13 games into a career and by the end of the game, had it over the Brions ruck men, esp around the ground. Early on, yes, was beaten. If he was making those inexperienced ball usage mistakes after 50 games, then perhaps we can say adios.

Lachie just can't take a mark when the ball is on top of his head. I reckon his posi is to start at the 45m mark and lead up through the centre, with bullets fired at him no more than a metre above his head. Getting better.

In Judd we trust, but bloooody hell, Yarran. Yarran

Excellent work the helpers in general.

Now, last night we were missing our Bower, Waite and Krueze (even if K has not been in the best form). Are they not three pillars in our side, and while not in the same league as Brown are equivalent to them having Brown, Fev and Charman out? Articles tell me Bris are missing 5 of their top 8. So what.

Anyway, good to come to work with a smile after a somewhat disappointing 55 point win. Go Blues.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:39 am 
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CK95 wrote:
I don't know how fit Setanta was. One of his chases early in the 1st qtr was just...un-Setanta like. He came to the bench looking buggered straight after.

I heard a lady behind me complaining of this, and I'll run you through the previous 90 seconds of the game:

- Rolling right down to HB
- Hard lead to the deep flank on the near side for the ball (~100m)
- Kick missed him due to him lacking a little zip, gathered, bolted. Initially sized up the snap before attempting to centre.
- Centre misses slightly
- Then traced the goal line boundary around the 50 to attempt 2 or 3 chase downs, right up to high HF

I think he tracked about 300 m, virtually all in sprints. Deservedly stuffed. Because Hampson was getting heavily rotated and Hendo runs something like a 16 beep test, he was the only forward showing how much Ratts' was overdoing the roll down.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:40 am 
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A 'so-so' game for us really. Not often you go home feeling a little flat after a 55 pt win!

Judd and Gibss both carrying slight ankles were good. Murph coming back was good also.

First time in a while I've seen Jammo caught out on a couple of occasions but still pretty good.

Walker and Russell have lost their way....hopefully can regain their early season form before too long.

Setants 3 helpers were all very good. Betts is now a legitimate FF...no longer really plays the forward pocket role.

Hendo has now convinced me he will be a good forward. Still only 20 and has a lot more to learn but with a couple years of further development, some increased confidence and upper body strength he will be a very handy forward for the CFC over the next decade.

Still cant see why people think Hammer will be a forward. Struggles to hold onto his marks and looks a little lost up forward. When switched into the ruck he was leaping all over his opponent. Definately a ruckman rather than a forward IMO.

Missed Waite's presence out there. And whilst Sammy looked a little better after qtr time it wasnt his best game for the navy blues.

BOY DID WE MISS THE BIG KRUEZE....DONT THINK WE REALISE HOW MASSIVE A LOSS HE WILL BE

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:40 am 
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Caz wrote:
If Setanta stands flat footed and signals for the player to kick it high to him one more time I will scream.....again! GET ON YOUR BIKE SETANTA!!!! Lead to space. If others are in your way, scream at them to get out of your #$%@* way.


With you on this one Caz, but it is hard to tell what his intsructions are. He hit up quite well in the first and then seemed to play defensively and in the square thereafter. His strengths are mobility and agility, his weaknesses game knowledge and pack marking. He seems to play to his weaknesses. So to did Hammer when up forward. He doesn't look like taking a contested mark, but he is big, fast with a leap. Why doesn't he use that up forward. Are they told to be deep targets to get the ball to ground?

Setanta, looked tired and flat. I hope his season isn't tailing off as it did last year. He was good early but won't hold his place unless he gets much more involved. It would be great to know what his instructions are. He struggles when space is closed down. But I agree, he just needs to be told to lead up and back, up and back. If he is used, he is used if not he may create space for others. Whatever his instructions are they need to be simple. Don't overload him. I reckon Hendo has gone past him and he has one more game to show he can play. Otherwise he may end the season with the Ants.


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