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| Author: | Kouta [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Trio in running to be a legend. |
Trio in legend running Who would your pick be from Hands, James and Southby? Even though I never saw them play they're impossible to split going on their records. 
Should be a dead heat IMHO! 
I'm not sure if this positive article was actually from the Herald Sun. 
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| Author: | camel [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:52 am ] |
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Yeah a dead heat would be appropriate. But I reckon it will be Southby, or Hands. |
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| Author: | Deano Supremo [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:53 am ] |
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Hands I reckon, then Southby, then James. |
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| Author: | camel [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:03 am ] |
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Ooh, ooh, I can see the headline now… Soutby wins Hands down! |
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| Author: | Jarusa [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:07 am ] |
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If anyone has any info to add to these profiles that would be fantastic. Geoff Southby http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... ff+Southby Ken Hands http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Ken+Hands John James http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=John+James Each one a Legend! |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:09 am ] |
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camelboy wrote: Ooh, ooh, I can see the headline now…
Soutby wins Hands down! Sack this man. And that's just for the typo. 
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:34 am ] |
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Brownlow Medallists first please - James is very underated - was the Ken Hunter of his time - very catlike and a great mark for his size. |
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| Author: | camel [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:50 am ] |
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jimmae wrote: camelboy wrote: Ooh, ooh, I can see the headline now… Soutby wins Hands down! Sack this man. And that's just for the typo. Haha, oops!  
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| Author: | SHHH! [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trio in running to be a legend. |
JuzzCarlton wrote: Trio in legend running
Who would your pick be from Hands, James and Southby? Even though I never saw them play they're impossible to split going on their records. Should be a dead heat IMHO! I'm not sure if this positive article was actually from the Herald Sun. So use players you've seen play. Livo Houla Prenda Thornton |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:28 am ] |
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Very helpful SHHHHH I agree with AGRO...Ken Hands won the highest individual honour in football...surely that is deserving of Legend status? |
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| Author: | Kouta [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trio in running to be a legend. |
SHHH! wrote: JuzzCarlton wrote: Trio in legend running Who would your pick be from Hands, James and Southby? Even though I never saw them play they're impossible to split going on their records. Should be a dead heat IMHO! I'm not sure if this positive article was actually from the Herald Sun. So use players you've seen play. Livo Houla Prenda Thornton Kouta, Dean, McKay and Doro (for putting a cocky Wallis on the deck in that drawn game in 1993 ) are my nominations for Legends.
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:55 am ] |
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Mrs Caz wrote: Very helpful SHHHHH
I agree with AGRO...Ken Hands won the highest individual honour in football...surely that is deserving of Legend status? Yes Mrs Caz I agree - the highest individual honour in Football is Captaining the Carlton Football Club, but I think you might be referring to John James (1961 Brownlow Medallist).
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:44 pm ] |
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Bugger! Hand me my pills...
there's no getting anything past you AGRO!
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| Author: | Jaykay [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:03 pm ] |
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Johnny James was a fabulous player. He was not a big man but, boy - could he take a mark. I remember one game against Essendon* I think in 1961 or 62. Bluey Shelton was Essendon*'s blue-eyed boy - reigned supreme in the air that year, till Ken Hands put James on him. I swear that James was a foot shorter than Shelton - but James took him to pieces that day. Outmarked him, out ran him, out played him. And we still lost that game. From memory, we had a young red-head, blood-nut, playing for us at CHF at around that time. Pretty good CHF he was, but Hands saw something else there, put him to CHB where he went on to win the second Brownlow for Carlton of the 60's. Gordon Collis. Ken Hands probably had a hand (pun intended) in the development of both of these guys. Never saw Hands play, Southby was fantastic, as was James. But James did win the big gong - and the others did not. I always thought that James was the best player in the VFL and was probably the best player I would ever see - till I saw Bobby Skilton...... |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:05 pm ] |
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Jaykay wrote: From memory, we had a young red-head, blood-nut, playing for us at CHF at around that time. Pretty good CHF he was, but Hands saw something else there, put him to CHB where he went on to win the second Brownlow for Carlton of the 60's. Gordon Collis..
What is the verdict on Gordon Collis - before my time - but was a Brownlow Medallist. I have heard that he was really just a "good ordinary player" who had one stellar year in a what was a very ordinary season for Carlton 1964. For those posters who saw him play - how does he rate??
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:08 pm ] |
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Mrs Caz wrote: Bugger! Hand me my pills...
there's no getting anything past you AGRO! But you got it right in the end. 
Ken Hands has been elevated to Legends Status - and well deserved too.
http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=252536 |
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| Author: | Headplant [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:17 pm ] |
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AGRO wrote: Mrs Caz wrote: Bugger! Hand me my pills... there's no getting anything past you AGRO! But you got it right in the end. Ken Hands has been elevated to Legends Status - and well deserved too. http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=252536 My mum's family used to call him "Solvol" ... Solvol was a brand of soap good for washing hands, and some people reckoned he was a little dirty ...
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:20 pm ] |
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Headplant wrote: My mum's family used to call him "Solvol" ... Solvol was a brand of soap good for washing hands, and some people reckoned he was a little dirty ...
His first season included the 1945 "Bloodbath" Grand Final - I think he was knocked unconcious at some stage and played on, it may have "coloured" his playing style for the rest of his career.
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| Author: | Deano Supremo [ Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:24 pm ] |
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AGRO wrote: Headplant wrote: My mum's family used to call him "Solvol" ... Solvol was a brand of soap good for washing hands, and some people reckoned he was a little dirty ... His first season included the 1945 "Bloodbath" Grand Final - I think he was knocked unconcious at some stage and played on, it may have "coloured" his playing style for the rest of his career. From http://www.blueseum.org Carlton rookie Ken Hands was to be the 'eye for an eye' matchup that South were looking for after the Clegg incident. There is some confusion as to whether it was South Melbourne's appropriately nicknamed Jack 'Basher' Williams, or backman Jim Cleary who had knocked Hands out cold in a behind the play incident about ten minutes before half time. When Umpire Spokes, who must have been nearing exhaustion trying to get the game under control, asked Williams why Hands was unconscious, Williams replied "I think he's got sunstroke". and Ken Hands scored the last goal for the Blues, an inspirational effort given the fact he was already heavily concussed and then recieved another smack in the mouth for his trouble from Jim Cleary. Ken Hands and Bob Chitty were nothing short of inspirational that day. If anyone accused Hands of being dirty, it would have been a result of his babtism of fire at VFL level. |
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