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The difference between carlton and collingwood
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Author:  bax [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  The difference between carlton and collingwood
I was rapt that the filth lost the Wizard Cup 2002 and day grand finals in 2002-03, it made us having bad years a little more tolerable knowing that their supporters were bleeding ( again ) after yet another grand final loss.

They may have made record profits, have Lexus stadium and all that other crap that make them THINK they are good. But they didn't get any silverware.

And that is the great difference between Carlton and Collingwood...... we win grand finals..... they don't.

How ya doin now Eddie!!! :P
Author:  MarkNo3 [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:14 pm ]
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You know what at the end of the day I dont care. My Grandparents supported the Pies and so long as we smash them by one point :twisted: im happy. I only care about us. No on else counts.
Author:  dannyboy [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:42 pm ]
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we swim in the deep blue sea

they watch from a black and white shore
Author:  phoenix johnson [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:44 pm ]
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Difference?

We're better than them.

Do we need another reason?
Author:  CK95 [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:55 pm ]
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dannyboy wrote:
we swim in the deep blue sea

they watch from a black and white shore




Yes.......a rhys shore
Author:  Bluesboy70 [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The difference between carlton and collingwood
bax wrote:
I was rapt that the filth lost the Wizard Cup 2002 and day grand finals in 2002-03, it made us having bad years a little more tolerable knowing that their supporters were bleeding ( again ) after yet another grand final loss.

They may have made record profits, have Lexus stadium and all that other crap that make them THINK they are good. But they didn't get any silverware.

And that is the great difference between Carlton and Collingwood...... we win grand finals..... they don't.

How ya doin now Eddie!!! :P


Yep, all that $ and media coverage and 40,000 + members (with a collective IQ of a dead pigeon) mean F*** all when you have won 1, yes 1 premiership in nearly 50 years.
Author:  dannyboy [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:02 pm ]
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in the bin CK - now!!!!! 8)
Author:  camel [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:05 pm ]
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Only one team has won 16 grand finals. Two have won 14. :lol:
Author:  Bluesboy70 [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:29 pm ]
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camelboy wrote:
Only one team has won 16 grand finals. Two have won 14. :lol:


And Collingwood won one after losing one the week before.
Author:  thehalford [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:47 am ]
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:?:

I thought they lost one after drawing one the week before. Or am I missing something?
Author:  The Vet [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:26 am ]
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I quite liked this "gem" from the Hack in todays Hun:

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The Carlton faithful have had moments of joy during the past two years, but they have been brief, principally surprise wins over Collingwood and Essendon*.



It's here:[url=http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,12536862%255E20322,00.html]Blues grateful Collo resisted urge to slash
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and that's another difference, we always want to beat them and do. They always want to beat us and don't.
Author:  St Fidelius [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:43 am ]
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From an outsider....

IMO is the coach.....


You have a coach who is compassionate and listens and has the time to talk with EVERY player…..

Malthouse IMO is arrogant and cannot relate to some players and treats the press with contempt….

he has not and will never realise that when he talk to the press, he is talking to the supporters…. Basically he is just a PIG

I remember before the first game last year, and how he berated the press when they asked him about not having the best line up, due to injuries….

And he lashed back and said that the press belittled the players in the 22 and said that this was the best side Blaa Blaa

Three weeks later he goes on about the injuries to his side :roll: :roll:
Author:  The Vet [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:44 am ]
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the Mind is slow, but the heart is weak!!!!

Don't rate Malthouse. Petulant too often, and not really a sucess. Only at WC where they were always going to win a flag. Really, look at the Dogs and the Pies. His record isn't that good.
Author:  thehalford [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:48 am ]
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He didn't do too badly at the Dogs, did he? I thought they reached a couple of Prelims while he was there. Admittedly they were crap in his last year, almost to the point of closure.
Author:  The Vet [ Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:52 am ]
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fair enough, but they always lose the big games. He is a premiership coach only at WC.
Author:  tap in 79 [ Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:20 am ]
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I don't think it is right to stick the boot into Collingwood - they have many things to be proud of.

Their record in the first 50 years of their existence was better than Carlton's, their win/loss record etc.

I just think that a bit of humility in victory goes a lot further than sticking the boot in to other teams. I agree that their record in grand finals isn't flash - but in some instances they got into grand finals when really they shouldn't have with the cattle they had - eg 1980/1981 etc.
Author:  16 flags [ Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:59 pm ]
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I'm happy to clarify the history. Here is the story of the early flags won by the filth.

1902 - Their first premiership was won after they lost their semi to Fitzroy. Fitzroy lost the Final to the scum. The filth then challenged the scum and beat them for the premiership.

1917 - Filth won their semi over South but lost the Final to Fitzroy. They challenged and won the Grand Final

1919 - Filth beat us in the semi but lost the Final to Richmond. They challenged and won the Grand Final

1929 - Filth lost their semi to Richmond (after winning all 18 H&A games). Richmond beat us in the final. Filth challenged the Tigers and won.

9 of their premierships were won before a decent finals system was put in place. Three cheers for the McIntye system.

Acknowledgement - the challenge rule helped us in 1914. We won our semi against Fitzroy but then lost the final to South and beat them in the Grand Final after challenging.

There was a year when Collingwood had a draw (as thehalford noted). In 1928 they drew their semi against Melbourne but won the replay and then the final over Richmond.
Author:  killpies [ Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:07 pm ]
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tap in 79 wrote:
I don't think it is right to stick the boot into Collingwood - they have many things to be proud of.

Their record in the first 50 years of their existence was better than Carlton's, their win/loss record etc.

I just think that a bit of humility in victory goes a lot further than sticking the boot in to other teams. I agree that their record in grand finals isn't flash - but in some instances they got into grand finals when really they shouldn't have with the cattle they had - eg 1980/1981 etc.

Interesting sentiment given your username :wink:
Author:  blueman [ Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:12 pm ]
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Exactly how did the challenge rule work. Who had the right to challenge and were they only allowed to challenge for a GF?
Author:  BlueBern [ Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:25 pm ]
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blueman wrote:
Exactly how did the challenge rule work. Who had the right to challenge and were they only allowed to challenge for a GF?


I think the minor premiers had the right to challenge. Not sure of the exact rules, but it did cost us winning 4 in a row.
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