I recall writing a piece on TBV at the time of the Carlton1 challenge, questioning the role of Sticks and his part in the debacle.My view was that as a Director/Chairman of selectors in the Elliot administration he was part and parcel of the sham.

Four years on,it is fair to ask again just what has his contribution been?
To my mind he should never have sought re-election during the upheaval.

Stephen may be a great bloke and he was a champion Footballer but that does not hold him above criticism.If we are to move ahead i am afraid that the former champion #4 should step off the Board!

I believe you had a few supporters as well, 7dom.

I recall that Mrs Caz.Unfortunately icon status can leave someone above criticism.

Whilst Wes Loft had his faults he certainly would'nt have tolerated the rubbish from some players in recent years!

No way sould Kernahan be allowed to continue that role .

Someone will be brought in to take that role and a couple of others.
Sticks just doesnt have the nouse...
Plus he is too matsey with too many ..

And he has done a couple of things in the last couple of months that are embarassing..(stupidity)

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What's he done Synbad?

(serious question - not trying to bait you or questioning your post)

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I would like to see Sticks retire gracefully, maybe take two or three years off from the club, come back later if he wants to.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

What does he do wrong?

That's what I want to know. There's no probs with calling for people's heads, as long as we know why.

I'm not an advocate of change for change's sake.

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7dom wrote

Answer is there Deano, he was one of Jack's mates. Now that we can't keep blaming Jack anymore lets blame his mates.

I don't have a problem with that, but surely we should have ditched him when we ditched Jack if that's the case.

Is there a statute of limitations on being mates with Jack Elliott?

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I'll go along with those statements and have been suggesting for a while he needs to move on...

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Fair enough, but it still appears to be a case of change for changes sake.

What exactly has he done wrong?

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Which in itself may not be such a bad idea given how the club is travelling




Maybe he's just not doing much of anything, not that I have any idea.

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I think he may have pushed to retain Lance.

I don't have a problem with any of that. Given that Kenny and Swan have just stood down isn't that enough change?

I'd like to know what Stick's has done wrong or what it is exactly that he isn't doing before putting his head on the chopping block.

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Also, if the club is going to benefit, there needs to be someone to come in who will be just as good and hopefully better and willing to do the job in the first place.

So far no suggestions have been made, I'm not against kernahan going per se, but only if the alternative is going to benefit the club.

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I agree Deano. I adore the big fella, but if he's not helping them its time to go....but if this is the case then I'd like to know it is he is or isn't doing.

I don't really expect you'll get an answer

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The environment created within the club is the issue.
Sticks should be used in a marketing capacity dealing with sponsors or the media.
He doesnt have involvement for his own benefit, he does it because he is a loyal servant of the club.

Where the problem is created is people within the organisation take advantage of Kernahans loyalty to progress their own agendas.
Why do you believe he is part of the MC?
Do you think Sticks would say "No Denis, I dont agree with that"?
Anyone who knows Sticks knows he is loyal to those around him to the bitter end.

The same situation occurs within the board. Kernahan will give loyalty to the board and those on it without doubt.
Thats why he stuck with the incumbents last time.

If the club was fair dinkum they'd give Sticks a role which benefits the club.
The trouble is too many want him to benefit themselves.

We cant keep throwing out good Carlton people who are willing to help.

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Time will tell I guess. If they're replaced with people with genuinely fresh ideas then it probably will be.




I have no idea.

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It's a tough one, 'cos Sticks will never do any wrong in my eyes. I love him like a Father.

That being said, if there is reason enough for him to step aside I'm all for it. But calling for his head just for the sake of it doesn't make sense to me...

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