Maybe. I doubt it though. We didnt look tanked in the last.

The shit hit the fan after we kicked two quick goals in the third to stretch our lead to 22 points, then the Swans just spread and took risks. Balls hit targets and we were chasing butt. Maybe its was something else other than fitness. Speed and fitness are different metrics imo

We will find out more about our fitness on the bigger and wider MCG this Thursday.

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I think it was speed and execution, not fitness. They had speed but poor execution in the first half, plus we owned the contest. Then they started winning contest and getting it more to the outside. Then after we kicked to two quick goals their execution also clicked.

We have average speed, average execution, excellent contest, excellent fitness.

We need run, spread and agility from the backline. E Hollands, Boyd, Guv, Derk, Carroll and Florent to RUN as soon as we have the ball.
Byrne, Williams, Moir, Ainsworth to all spend time at the centre throw up, at no time do we have Hewett and Cripps on ball at the same time.
L Young to play deep forward and compete and bring the ball to ground, also second ruck.
Harry to play up the ground away from goals, and CHASE.
Byrne plays limited minutes for impact and speed.
Carrol is seventh defender (until Newman/Cowan are back), maybe we can swap him for Ollie and have Ollie in defence.

B: Boyd, Weitering, E Hollands
HB:McGovern, Derksen, Florent
C: O Hollands, Cripps, Chesser
HF: Hayward, McKay, Moir/Kemp
F: Ainsworth, L Young, Evans
Foll: Pittonet, Walsh, Smith
Int: Williams, Hewett, Carroll, Lord, Byrne

Emerg: HoK, Kemp/Moir, F Young, Dean

This somehow accepted view that we're a strong contested ball team is the problem.

We're really not.

But let's say that we are

Contested ball, if really strong, is probably a 60% vs 40% chance of winning the ball.

A side who can dispose of it well probably has an 80% vs 20% chance of keeping the ball. If not greater.

Herein lies the problem.

For at least the 20th consecutive year, we can't kick. We can't handball. We can't move the ball and retain the ball.

Sydney are a good team, but they really were greasy and fumbly in the 1st half. We weren't that good.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

So in 20 years we've turned over all of our players, all of our coaches and all of our recruiting staff. Why haven't we fixed any of it?

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Probably because past players and Carlton people are still meddling with the club as per below.

Wright taking no prisoners.

Docherty has got himself uninvited to Thursday's pregame function.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1474824/sam-docherty-withdrawn-from-carlton-blues-function-after-stinging-criticism-following-loss-to-sydney-swans

Oh dear.

Pathetic response from the club. Truth hurts.

This and the banning of Heath Buck from filming training after the skills session went viral just proves again nothings changed.

All about PR and controlling the narrative, silencing dissent and eliminating those who dare to question things.

I. Understand….

but for me it’s the public thing…dirty laundry
stuff….

now don’t get me wrong…Doc has every right to
his opinion…and i agree with some of the stuff
he’s said-BUT…maybe a chat with the club…

but maybe Doc hasn’t always done the right thing
by the club…I’m upset he put his hand up in the
final…he wasn’t ready….

but again…it’s Doc…what the &#@% do i now….


kindest regards tommi

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What organization doesn’t want to control the narrative. I think Doc was put in a bad position by his mate, but he can’t be surprised. And also my issue with Doc is that he absolves himself of any responsibility for the situation if what he said was true. He was one of the leaders of the football club. He makes his comments like he is on the outside looking in when he was up until recently at the core of things.

As for the reaction to the loss, it’s like we have never got a belting in Sydney. It’s round 1. We have good people at the helm of the footy club. They made bold decisions at the end of last year. Let’s reserve judgment and then assess where things are at.

What happened last Thursday could have happened to any club in the competition.

That voice-mail message by Doc. It must be the longest on record.

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Mens sana in corpore sano

My mum leaving me instructions on how to reheat lasagne holds that title, but yep it was long

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I can't say I blame the club for dumping him from that function. Imagine how awkward all round it would have been.

Gorringe is an idiot for airing it though. It's not just a chat between friends if your friend is a prominent ex player of the club in question.

Agree. I don't think the club is punishing doc or cutting him off, but more just avoiding the awkwardness for a bit.

The more I think about this Gorringe thing the more I smell a rat though. Did he really just go ahead & air it without thinking about the consequences? They're best mates apparently. Something about it just seems orchestrated to me.

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Far out all this and one game in.

We are copping it from all angles.

How we respond is the interesting part now.

I was so excited for footy - this it started.......

Carlton, who aren't expected by most to make finals, are thumped by a team who many predict will be top 4 and everyone loses their mind.
This game and the next couple after will tell a bigger story.

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RE: Docherty

If he did leave his friend a long, frustrated voice message and his friend then released it without his permission, then that's a pretty shit thing for Gorringe to do.

That would mean Docherty's appearance this week could potentially be pretty awkward, and it wouldn't surprise me that the club and Docherty agreed it would be better for him to lay low for a week.

The way McClure (a real headline chaser) has reported it, it sounds like we've stripped him of his life membership. He was due to speak at *one* of the many pre-match events, not appear on the ground or toss the coin. No doubt they've shifted him to another game down the road.

If the club told Docherty that he's cut, and Doc didn't agree with it, then that's fine. The club doesn't owe Docherty anything. He can be as critical as he pleases, but the club doesn't have to pay him to make appearances if it doesn't want to. There are plenty of ex-players available, I'm sure.

I also agree it's a bit rich that he's been portrayed as some oracle of honest frustration - he was on the list for 11 flower' years. He was vice captain. He played in most of the games that involved the opposition running all over us. It's like when someone gets voted out of office and then they turn around and say 'why doesn't the government do something!' flower - you were just there.

Also, nothing about Gorringe's post-footy-social-media-clown-AFL-fuck-boi nonsense appeals to me. And I kinda agree with CK, that if this isn't Gorringe being a real prick to his mate, then it's the two of them trying to drum up a bit of controvery for the attention... and if that's the case, @#$%&! them both.

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