Hawk defenders had a picnic.

Carlton had more inside 50s.

All the players happy smiling in the rooms
After losing by 4 goals and never looked like it
What a great club

All the players happy smiling in the rooms
After losing by 4 goals and never looked like it
What a great club

They are clearly better than us and won comfortably, but Hawthorn is a very cynical side: lots of throwing, dumping players without the ball, pushing into behind posts, elbows into ribs, knees into backs, not manning the mark correctly... we got plenty of frees but Hawthorn dares the umpires to give 50 frees a game and they inevitably cave.

Great game from HOF. Hewett very good as usual. Possibly Will White's best game for us, maybe his papers aren't quite stamped. Moir all class in first half but the second passed him by. Ollie, Acres OK. "Leaders" no good.

Unpopular opinion? The Docherty stuff during the week and during the game made me feel like vomiting. This playing group has spent so much time with people blowing smoke up their arses, they've become the champions of me/me/me.
Same as Cripps again wanting to take the ruck constantly when there's a tall there to compete so he can get a possession. Give me a break.
I watched the Evans hit again and whilst Fogarty went into remonstrate with May, (one of the smallest blokes in our team!) Cripps turned his back and walked away. WTF is that from a supposed leader?

This playing group needs an almighty shake up. I don't know how many times I saw Cooper Lord make an option to only be ignored by the senior players.
Too many blokes playing for themselves instead of the team. It needs to be sorted out now before it infects the younger blokes as well.
Total change of leadership. Cripps, Charlie. Take responsibility away from them. They'll probably enjoy the freedom anyway. Give Nic Newman the captaincy/Walsh vice for 12 months and then make Walsh captain. His injuries are a concern but he's the only one who seems to live or die by the results.

The biggest red flag for me and it has been for a while? The blokes who really buy into team footy are the ones who came from other clubs. Haynes, Newman, Fogarty, Pittonet, Williams, Cerra, Hewett, Evans. And the young blokes. The ones who haven't been tainted by the selfishness and ego of the other senior players or learnt what team values are elsewhere.

Some posters blame Voss but the same players have been serving up the same selfish shit for years. It's cultural. Marc Murphy, Patrick Cripps. Can you see them challenging a team mate and demanding better? It's a bit hard when you're one of the biggest culprits yourself. This group needs a bomb up there arses and I hope Voss gets the green light to do so.
He's stuck by them for 4 years and they've served up the same shit they have for previous coaches. Hopefully he sees that they cant be trusted and he puts a broom through them. If he doesn't have the courage to do it, get someone in who will.

We've got a lot of good young blokes coming through. HOF was very good, Cowan, Carroll and Lord give 100%. Add in Dean, O'Keefe, Walker, Jagga etc. If it's not stopped now, they'll be infected by the same entitled shit that permeates through the group. Time for serious movement.

The culture has been in the toilet for 20 years Surrey.
As I've said previously, as an incoming coach, Voss was fully entitled to trust the playing group and give them a chance to prove themselves. He has seen now that they will let you down repeatedly. Bringing in another coach just repeats the process. Wright, Priestley and Voss need to be on the same page from now on. Ruthless, tough and uncompromising. Our players need a bit of shit in them. Like Hawthorn do.
That wont happen with the hand holding team leadership we currently have.