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Author:  keogh [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Obviously nobody gives a @#$%&!
Wilson for Evans
Author:  Traveller86 [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
If Harry McKay is ready he's straight in for Evans.

Will be interesting to see how we go vs the Hawks following recent beltings vs Brisbane and Collingwood.
Author:  GreatEx [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
They're not nearly as good as Filth or Bears. But they're slay a horrible matchup for us so I expect a 40- point loss at a minimum. Just hope the likes of Carroll, HOF and Moir continue to shine.
Author:  jezzarules [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Neither Acres or O'Keefe played VFL so likely they were being kept fresh considering it's a Thursday game. Also Lemmy apparently didn't play the whole game.
Author:  Sydney Blue [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
I will miss this game as I will be flying back from Perth.
If we do nothing else this year please beat them.
One change Harry in for Evans.
3 talls forward to give Barass Battle and Scilily something to think about.


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Author:  sinbagger [ Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
If Harry is available do we drop TDK?

JSOS should be considered too shouldn’t he?
Author:  BamBam7 [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
sinbagger wrote:
If Harry is available do we drop TDK?

JSOS should be considered too shouldn’t he?
Surely we don't rush SOS back now that the season is done?
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
keogh wrote:
Obviously nobody gives a @#$%&!
Wilson for Evans


When Blue blood runs through the veins I’m sure watching Carlton win or evolve is better than not playing … watching Finals, wishing Carlton were alive and kicking.

All summer, and especially if cricket is average, and already done the beach thing in the morning I crave for footy…I actually crave for my team.

Lucky there’s always something to do, but….Carlton is my passion.

Carlton forever through thick and thin.
Author:  missnaut [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Why is this a five day break
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
jezzarules wrote:
Neither Acres or O'Keefe played VFL so likely they were being kept fresh considering it's a Thursday game. Also Lemmy apparently didn't play the whole game.



That’s interesting, but Acres was crap last week, and prior to that, same in the AFL. No point playing him if his shoulder and back aren’t right. I’d rather a fully fit player than a half fit Acres at 29yo.

O’Keefes absence was a big surprise. Must be managing his Hammy. Last week played 60%, this week rested.

Somehow I don’t think these 2 will push for a spot.

Harry SOS will be ready to be considered. Pies want to have a good look at SOS :sly:

I think HOF is still too young to dominate, in AFL, but he’s a tall kid and has a competitive spirit that could do with. Few more games in the AFL.

If SOS comes in, HOF is out, no doubt.

With Harry in, it implies Lemmey is on hold.

Who goes out for Harry and SOS, other than Evans with concussion? I think it will be HOF.

Unless the List Mgr has already decided not to extend Lemmey contract, he should play in 2-3 games. A good game for him would be the last round v Effendopes. If so will be interesting where TDK plays. Surely we will know officially if TDK is playing at the Saints next year. That would be good time to drop him and play Lemmey at FF. He needs another couple huge preseasons imo. Ditto OKeefe to build strength and stamina.

Wilson is another I feel is growing in confidence in the VFL. He’s a keeper imo, and with his contract under review he should get some time in AFL imo.

Lucas seems ro have run out of puff.
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Sydney Blue wrote:
I will miss this game as I will be flying back from Perth.
If we do nothing else this year please beat them.
One change Harry in for Evans.
3 talls forward to give Barass Battle and Scilily something to think about.


Sent from my SM-F956B using Tapatalk


I’m a fan of the 3 headed monster.
One of the last times we get to see TDK as the 3rd monster.

I agree with David King and Montagna, that TDK is the most dangerous Fwd-ruck in the comp.
TDK is not suited against the bigger rucks.
Stuff his stats. It’s the impact his opponents have that hurts us.

It’s our forward entry that has sucked…the life from the tall forwards.
Them not leading doesn’t help, but it’s all part of the same problem: Forwards line coach.
Harry an$ Charlie’s set shots is a separate issue.
Author:  Sidefx [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Having a look at the ladder predictor and if we could somehow pull out a miraculous win the week:
1. The Hawks will most likely miss the 8, and finish 9th.
2. And if we beat Port and Essendon* we could finish 11th.

Hopefully we get McKay back and can pull one out of our ...............!
Author:  Traveller86 [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Its Jacob Weitering's 200th game. Surely that alone should bump up our interest in this game.
Author:  kezza [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Traveller86 wrote:
Its Jacob Weitering's 200th game. Surely that alone should bump up our interest in this game.

I have just realized this myself.
I wasn't planning on going but might go along now.
Author:  SurreyBlue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Traveller86 wrote:
Its Jacob Weitering's 200th game. Surely that alone should bump up our interest in this game.


I didn’t give us any hope, but then just read this, and now realised - even more so, no chance. This group doesn’t know how to play for each other. So many occasions……….
Author:  missnaut [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Sidefx wrote:
Having a look at the ladder predictor and if we could somehow pull out a miraculous win the week:
1. The Hawks will most likely miss the 8, and finish 9th.
2. And if we beat Port and Essendon** we could finish 11th.

Hopefully we get McKay back and can pull one out of our ...............!


@#$%&! that would be funny.
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Traveller86 wrote:
Its Jacob Weitering's 200th game. Surely that alone should bump up our interest in this game.



Lets see if the lads can get bup for him by wanting to keep hold of the winning feeling.

Go Blues
Author:  DocSherrin III [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
Traveller86 wrote:
Its Jacob Weitering's 200th game. Surely that alone should bump up our interest in this game.


The disinterest in Kade Simpson's 300th in 2018 told me all I needed to know about this supporter base and milestones.
Author:  GWS [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
bondiblue wrote:
I agree with David King and Montagna, that TDK is the most dangerous Fwd-ruck in the comp.

Averages five goals a season and never kicked more than nine in a year.

Accuracy is at 47% not including OOF.

The competition must be pretty thin for forward rucks if he’s currently the best in the league.

We all see the potential but it’s starting to look like Steve Silvagni is the ultimate long game plant and we planned this years ago to take down St Kilda.

$1.7 million.

@#$%&! insanity.
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hawthorn v Carlton ( pre match discussion)
GWS wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I agree with David King and Montagna, that TDK is the most dangerous Fwd-ruck in the comp.

Averages five goals a season and never kicked more than nine in a year.

Accuracy is at 47% not including OOF.

The competition must be pretty thin for forward rucks if he’s currently the best in the league.

We all see the potential but it’s starting to look like Steve Silvagni is the ultimate long game plant and we planned this years ago to take down St Kilda.

$1.7 million.

@#$%&! insanity.


$1M is ridiculous.
He’s not Gawn, he’s not Grundy,
He’s $1M if he can kicks goals

I agree and when I heard it, it was straight after he took a great mark in kicked an easy goal

I think his goal kicking will be helped with entry, and confidence.
Like Harry and Charlie, he can do with a kicking coach.

TDK is a terrible shot at goal. But he’s a dangerous size, athletic and entering the prime of his career 26-30
He could be made dangerous. I’m sure a coach out there could make it work.
I suspect Lyon will use TDK and Marshall as KPFs
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