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R2: Carlton Vs Hawthorn (Post match discussion)
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Author:  Effes [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  R2: Carlton Vs Hawthorn (Post match discussion)

Butchering the footy again

Silvagni 1.3
Motlop 1.3

Goalless last quarter.

Curnow ineffective

Worst small forward line in the competition.

Outside game is atrocious; so many butchers.

Wingers who can't kick for shit.

Author:  bender [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:19 pm ]
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Just give us the cup

Author:  Effes [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:19 pm ]
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Those cauliflower go out and recruit quality/for need

D'Ambrosio
Battle
Barrass

Where was our plan to add pace and skill and a second tall defender?

Author:  jake_h03 [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:19 pm ]
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Trade Kemp while we have the chance. The guy ain’t it


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Author:  DesEnglish [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:20 pm ]
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Can’t wait to hear the dross from Voss

Author:  Megaman [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:20 pm ]
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Haynes pick up was genius

Author:  missnaut [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:21 pm ]
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It's a pity we didn't play with the same effort last week.

@#$%&! they get a good run from the umpires.

Author:  WOW [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:22 pm ]
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This is so predictable

We peaked in 2023. Effectively a 10 game run.

It ain’t happening with Voss and this list

Our bottom 6 - 8 players are awful

We rely on too few. Been the case for 20 years.

Author:  MPH78 [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:23 pm ]
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Bottom 5 finish coming up.

Effort much better. Got reamed by the umps.

But we have no reliable system to move the ball. Skills are bush league level. Decision making bush league level. Defending bush league level. Fitness levels bush league level. Hardness bush league level. Coaching acumen bush league level.

Their class and skills were about 6 levels up from what we can produce.

Did anyone ever think we would actually win at any stage of the game? We all knew what the result would be.

Going to be an ugly bumpy ride, again.

Author:  Effes [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:23 pm ]
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Voss got them in a huddle in the rooms....what rubbish.

Effort is not the issue.

Strategy, pace and skill is the issue.

Author:  Megaman [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:24 pm ]
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At least we'll get good picks this year.. right?

Author:  Keithy [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:24 pm ]
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To many players who have no impact whatsoever
Voss needs to make changes but he won’t
All you hear is that the younger players aren’t ready
well they couldn’t be any worse then some of these
overpaid shit scared with terrible skills player’s

Author:  GreatEx [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:24 pm ]
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jake_h03 wrote:
Trade Kemp while we have the chance. The guy ain’t it


Was it Bondi who said try him on a wing, I'd be down with that. He's an athlete, much better aerial target than Motlop who seemed to be everyone's favourite for reasons that elude me.

So sad that that 4Q soured the night. I was starting to get some pride back late in the third but you knew after 5 minutes in the last that it was game over despite only being 3 goals down. We have to work so hard for everything because we're so slow and our game plan is to bash our way through walls. Leaves nothing left while the opponent runs on air.

Author:  missnaut [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:25 pm ]
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WOW wrote:
This is so predictable

We peaked in 2023. Effectively a 10 game run.

It ain’t happening with Voss and this list

Our bottom 6 - 8 players are awful

We rely on too few. Been the case for 20 years.


Sad but true on all counts.

Author:  dadadadada [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:26 pm ]
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That was a game of the skilled versus the unskilled.

Their field kicking is brilliant

Author:  Megaman [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:26 pm ]
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Docherty surely cooked

Author:  Juanita Jones [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:26 pm ]
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Keithy wrote:
To many players who have no impact whatsoever
Voss needs to make changes but he won’t
All you hear is that the younger players aren’t ready
well they couldn’t be any worse then some of these
overpaid shit scared with terrible skills player’s


Voss is coaching for his career. Won’t make wholesale changes.

Author:  Hornet [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:26 pm ]
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Inside 50's were similar... marks inside f50 we're 5 to 13... bomb, bomb, bomb

Scores from the back half were 5 goals to 0 their way... we can't defend when we don't have the ball

Our slow play confuses our own players more than the opposition... lack of movement

The contested game plan is too taxing... we run out of legs

We must look like superstars at training... we refuse to change things up

The selection of Curnow was a mistake... the cupboard is bare

Hawthorn... enjoy our draft picks

Author:  Sidefx [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:27 pm ]
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Acres 10 disposals at 50% eff., 203m gained, 1 mark and 1 tackle.
Not good enough for an experienced wing.

Lucas a second gamer and only played 3/4s had 9 disposals at 66.7% eff., 2 marks, 3 clearances and 182m gained.

Bring in Ben on the other wing and give Acres a run in the 2s.
May as well invest in the future now.

Author:  keogh [ Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:29 pm ]
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We are rooted
Simply not good enough
The effort was there but not the class
Hawthorn has passed us in a year
Saad simply doesn’t do enough
Mc Govern soft again
Acres cooked
Docherty cooked
Haynes another afl reject
Curnow not fit enough
Hollands vanilla
Cerra ok but not worth a first and third rounder
Williams showed something but didn’t touch it when it really mattered
Fogarty just so average
Walsh vanilla
Voss no faith in the youngsters
DeKoning Hewett and Cripps carried us
Don’t be sucked in to the honourable loss syndrome
This club needs to make some big decisions
But guess what
They won’t
Simply put
This list ain’t good enough
That’s the best we can play and we are 20 points off

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