| TalkingCarlton http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/ |
|
| R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38161 |
Page 1 of 11 |
| Author: | Stefchook [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Perfect storm of crapness. |
|
| Author: | missnaut [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
It really couldn't have gone much worse could it? Thrashed, out of the top 8, half the side injured. |
|
| Author: | GreatEx [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Permission to be completely irrational and petulant? Bath tub is full, k kids are still young enough even with my bad back. |
|
| Author: | jim [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
5 years out of the last 6 we have utterly capitulated I the last part of the season. Each one of those years we have been crippled by injury. Each one of those years Russell has been there. Even in 2020/21we were a chance at making the 8 five games out and capitulated. 2022 capitulated and lost our last 4, this year, 2nd premiership favourites, or close to, capitulated and lost 5 from the last 6. At least, finally, we will be forced to play Binns, Lord, etc, rather than picking half fit, out of form players. We might actually find something we could have used week ago. |
|
| Author: | Hornet [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Hope we don't use injuries as an excuse... they only exacerbated the final margin This club has been on a downhill capitulation for nearly 2 months now... and no one has any answers Hawks above us now and won't lose another game... a wasted season |
|
| Author: | tommi [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Goodness me…. I’m sorry Carlton Football Club…i stopped watching you play about 10 minutes into the 3rd…! would’ve loved to have watched that beautiful jumper for a bit longer…but hey…it hurt…! kindest regards tommi |
|
| Author: | Stefchook [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Pros: Kennedy was good. Cripps, Acres and Weiters tried hard. As did Cowan. We're a better team with Williams' skill in the side. Coaching panel will now be forced to give some younger guys a chance. Cons: Injuries, injuries and more injuries. We're already slowish. Simply can't afford to lose 4 of our so-called running players. Few of our forwards can apply defensive pressure, because they're too slow. Or they simply won't. Special mention to Motlop and Elijah today for their disinterest in defensive running. Mistackles. Terrible kicking to leading forward. Last week Owies butchered 2. This week another 1. So did Walsh and Hewett. |
|
| Author: | daggs001 [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Signs of the boys turning on each other. Gov who got his teammates support last week when he bottled it decides to set the tone early. Coaching staff completely got the game plan wrong. High press from the first bounce went tits up and stayed that way all match. They scored a squillion points from their D50. Injuries just the icing on the cake for a pretty horrid 5 or 6 weeks of footy. We are cooked |
|
| Author: | Braithy [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
just fantastic to see the big spud pittonet belly laughing with siccilly after the final siren. martin lasted 9 minutes with a hammy. fogerty 15, boyd injured not long after. mcgovern was in the rooms for his regular 15 minute nap he gets every damned game. charlie playing on a cooked ankle completely deep fries it. saad another hammy. and yet, that's not the worst of it. how are we as a team so profoundly slow? who allowed that to happen? how are the hawks so damned fast. each to a man, they outraced us and outran us even before the injuries. we are jogging into a top ten draft pick, both literally and figuratively. i'd love to see the back of voss. should have happened last year, but injuries forced him to play smaller and faster and with dash. 2 flukey finals wins and all of a sudden we've given him another 2 years. at least NFL is on soon. |
|
| Author: | Stefchook [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Oli will be a good player. But really wished we'd picked Weddle. |
|
| Author: | Scotty12000 [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
How embarrassing. The entire organisation from top to bottom should hang its head in shame. From 2 games clear in 2nd place on the ladder in Round 16 to missing finals (and let’s face facts, we will). And this is what we dish up when we’re celebrating our 160th year with all our former premiership legends in attendance?! What the hell has happened?! This is an unmitigated disaster that even an entire month at “Camp Curnow”™️ couldn’t fix. Mentally shot, physically shot, rudderless coaching, zero leadership and bereft of any desire whatsoever. See you in 2025 for yet another false dawn, full of talk talk talk but zero walk. |
|
| Author: | jim [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Hornet wrote: Hope we don't use injuries as an excuse... they only exacerbated the final margin This club has been on a downhill capitulation for nearly 2 months now... and no one has any answers Hawks above us now and won't lose another game... a wasted season Injuries have been our issue for 5 years now. Every year bar one we have run out of fitness with 6 games to go. That has been the reoccurring theme. This year, record hammys and repeat hammys to players. That cauliflower is now finally gone. |
|
| Author: | Dodo27 [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
All Those Injuries are due to two things: 1- Poor Recruiting of Injury prone players who will breakdown regardless of how you look after them 2- The Hard Surface at Ikon Park. ( I have written to the club so many times and given them examples and even taken samples of the Ground to show them that it is not suitable for Training at all. The Grass needs replacement. It is so hard to run on and keeps contributing to our soft injuries. |
|
| Author: | Heavs [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Weiters looks fat. |
|
| Author: | missnaut [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Heavs wrote: Weiters looks fat. So does E Hollands. |
|
| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Recruitment and fitness. Charlie ankle injury before the game no one to replace him. Martin hammies and calf all year Cunningham can't get on the park Marchbank can't get on the park Saad 2nd hammy for the year Cerra 3 hammies in on year Gov always spending time in rooms Motlop missed most of the year We draft a kid Carroll hasn't played all year Moir miles off it Lemmey miles off it Akuei miles off it TDK beaten into submission Williams always injured Mikov miles off it Duffy Doc and JSOS all out for the year Orazio another wasted list spot Jack Carroll miles off it Cotrell most of the year out The list goes on we keep drafting and trading players who have been injury prone before we get them. We have no players capable of being swung around the ground except Kennedy. Then we have the Chicken littles in the Holland boys and Young We keep naming Kennedy and Hewett as subs We will not make the 8 and go into next year with zero coming through We used 49 of 75 rotations today flogging the players left on the park I said when we were 11 and 4 we would miss the 8 like 2022. Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk |
|
| Author: | SurreyBlue [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Embarrassing performance. |
|
| Author: | GreatEx [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
Dodo27 wrote: All Those Injuries are due to two things: 1- Poor Recruiting of Injury prone players who will breakdown regardless of how you look after them 2- The Hard Surface at Ikon Park. ( I have written to the club so many times and given them examples and even taken samples of the Ground to show them that it is not suitable for Training at all. The Grass needs replacement. It is so hard to run on and keeps contributing to our soft injuries. At least we've quietly decided to sort out #2 while giving Russell the arse. So regardless of which clown has the biggest shoes, hopefully that circus ends soon. On recruitment... farrrkkkk. Delist every out-of-contract player, listen to trade offers for everyone with currency, start again with ATHLETES - that is the non-negotiable, aside from that you need one of either mongrel or foot skills (obviously both are preferable, but life ain't perfect). Read the writing on the wall from the AFL, they want a fast game, they're afraid of too many big hits, so blokes like Crippa are yesterday's player. Get creative, maybe scout the US college system for wide receivers and running backs who aren't quite good enough for NFL. I dunno. @#$%&! it, we've been nowhere near it for 30 years, the current crop has no chance, may as well set the sights at 2035-2040. |
|
| Author: | daggs001 [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
GreatEx wrote: Dodo27 wrote: All Those Injuries are due to two things: 1- Poor Recruiting of Injury prone players who will breakdown regardless of how you look after them 2- The Hard Surface at Ikon Park. ( I have written to the club so many times and given them examples and even taken samples of the Ground to show them that it is not suitable for Training at all. The Grass needs replacement. It is so hard to run on and keeps contributing to our soft injuries. At least we've quietly decided to sort out #2 while giving Russell the arse. So regardless of which clown has the biggest shoes, hopefully that circus ends soon. On recruitment... farrrkkkk. Delist every out-of-contract player, listen to trade offers for everyone with currency, start again with ATHLETES - that is the non-negotiable, aside from that you need one of either mongrel or foot skills (obviously both are preferable, but life ain't perfect). Read the writing on the wall from the AFL, they want a fast game, they're afraid of too many big hits, so blokes like Crippa are yesterday's player. Get creative, maybe scout the US college system for wide receivers and running backs who aren't quite good enough for NFL. I dunno. @#$%&! it, we've been nowhere near it for 30 years, the current crop has no chance, may as well set the sights at 2035-2040. I am starting to also wonder about the professionalism of some of our perennially injured players. What are they doing during the week to prepare? What are they doing with their recoveries post game? How many are getting up at 2am icing an injury like some of the top notch players do,? It can't be just bad management on Russell's behalf. I'm not convinced some of these guys have taken ownership of the issues and put in the extra rehab sessions of their own accord. |
|
| Author: | Mickstar [ Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Hawthorn (post match discussion) |
I"m going to go the " never good as you think and never bad as you think " line . Oh , and the other one " never post within 24 hours of being bitterly disappointed otherwise you will regret it . And of course that old one " if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all . I"ll wait till tomorrow . |
|
| Page 1 of 11 | All times are UTC + 10 hours |
| Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|