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R18: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)
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Author:  CK95 [ Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  R18: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)
Please just learn from the gws game & don't drop two in a row

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Author:  kingkerna [ Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (prematch discussion)
Glad this is up, move on from the giants, no excuses, should win by plenty and chair off the champ.
Motlop in for Fantasia, consider Marchbank if Naughton is allowed to play
Author:  grrofunger [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:01 am ]
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We better not dare lose in Cripps 200th
Author:  Crusader [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 am ]
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Risky, but we might see Weitering given a couple weeks off. The club says it’s a corkie, again, but the way it hobbles him, it has to be worse than that?

Structurally, we’re ok with Young or Nige. We need Weitering in September. If he’s carrying a low grade hip pointer (one where you’re pretty stiff, but can still push when you shit), he’s a contest away from 4-6 weeks on the sideline.

That said, if he is carrying something, you’d have to ask why he isn’t wearing the padded shorts?

In any case, I expect this week’s injury report to be thicker than Lizzo.
Author:  bender [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:48 am ]
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what happened to the original thread?
Author:  Lowey_47 [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:42 am ]
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Seems like the place went into complete meltdown after the game.

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Author:  CK95 [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:52 am ]
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bender wrote:
what happened to the original thread?
Have a look at bluechucky's sticky at the top of the forum

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Author:  Braithy [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:25 am ]
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Crusader wrote:
That said, if he is carrying something, you’d have to ask why he isn’t wearing the padded shorts?



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Author:  Wojee [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:41 am ]
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Stop their midfield and we win this easily, their forwards and backs are a bit meh IMO.
Author:  AGRO [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:45 am ]
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GWS exposed us with their pace - I’m worried that Bulldogs will expose with their height up forward particularly if Weitering is still proppy.
Author:  blueianh [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:39 am ]
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A few players might be sore , but assuming everyone comes up as seems to be the clubs position the players it seems to me under pressure to keep their spots this week are Fantasia Cottrell Kemp and O Hollands. Possible ins (assuming Martin comes back via the 2s as he should) Binns, Carroll. Cunningham, S Durdin, Hewett, Lord, Marchbank, Motlop, Pittonet, Wilson & Young. .I can't see anyone else. Hewett I think has to come back. Of the other possible ins I would say no to Durdin and Marchbank on their performances in the 2s both this week and overall, likewise Motlop though he was much better this week. Lord and Wilson impressive but want to see more of them. I think Wilson not ready for firsts yet and Lord I just need to see more of. Not a lot of hurt factor I suspect but a goer and works hard defensively which would help in the firsts. Not quick though. Binns and Carroll I don't think are much of an upgrade, good seconds players and deserve a look at at some stage, not this week for mine. Pittonet I don't think against the dogs despite their height they don't have the crash and bash ruckman. That leaves Cuningham and Young, both of whom have traits we need but issues that worry me. Both were good against the Giants after being ordinary previously. Both have shown they have the talent but not produced consistently. But this week I would take the chance on both. Cunners body holds up and he is an upgrade on most of our smalls. Maybe as sub if concerned about his ability to run out a full game. I think we need a second tall defender and we simply haven't been playing one. It bit us badly against the Giants when Weiters was hampered and Kemp outsized as you would expect. Perhaps should have tried McGovern or Weiters (despite the corkie) on Hogan but really showed up the risk of going into a game with only 1 genuine key defender. Problem is of course lack of a quality second option. Marchbank more of a third tall again and looking a mile off it at the moment, Durdin has been a good seconds player but not looking in particularly good form at the minute and Young unrecognizable from his 2022 self, but did have a much better game this week. I say seize the moment and give him a shot. He also is a relief option in the ruck if we don't want to have Harry out of the forward line too long. Not expecting much but I would throw him the chance and say there's a spot for you if you perform. So if Hewett Cuningham and Young are the 3 ins, who of the 4 possible outs keeps his spot. That is a tough one. Hollands was busiest but too often ineffective. Fantasia ineffective again and has really only the one good performance. Cottrell was poor but first up after a long break probably should have come back via the 2s, Question is having had the run do you back him to step up or do you send him back to the 2s to get miles in the legs. Kemp slaughtered but shouldn't have been asked to stand Hogan, so I give him a Mulligan and he is the one who survives - besides which we probably need the extra height especially for the doggies so even though the changes aren't like for like I think that is actually a good thing.

Without looking at the Bulldogs lineup to contemplate specific matchups something like:
Newman McGovern Young
Saad Weitering Kemp
Acres Cripps E Hollands
Cincotta McKay Williams
Kennedy Curnow Owies
TDK Hewett Walsh
Boyd Cerra Cowan Fogarty Cuningham

If Weiters injury bad enough to rest him I'd bring in Durdin (been in better form than Marchbank and more genuine key position) and let him and Young compete for the 2nd KD spot. If both fall flat the incentive is there for Marchbank or we just live with the single KD structure for want of anyone putting their hand up.
Author:  Humpers [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:39 am ]
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If we stick with Kemp then who does he play on?
Don't think he is a suitable match-up for Ugle-Hagen, Darcy or Naughton is he is allowed to play.
If Weiters is sore then maybe rest him the following week against North.
Author:  Braithy [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:26 pm ]
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might need young to play all out man defense on a tall along with weitering, while spelling kemp who's more of an intercept/ zone defender than a man-on defender.

or marchbank who does both ... but the last few times i've seen him, i'm not sure he's fast enough or strong enough for the afl anymore after his last run of injuries?


gov, weiters, tdk and williams all looked sore after the gws game. so i wouldn't be surprised if there's many ins/ outs
Author:  sticksaftersiren87 [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:56 pm ]
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Naughton and O'Donnell both def out with concussion
Author:  bluebo baggers [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:57 pm ]
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Didn't Naughton go off with concussion so will miss the game?
Author:  kezza [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:05 pm ]
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I don't usually have any issues buying footy tickets so this may be a dumb question.
I am trying to buy general admission tickets for this game. The only place I can see to buy any is on the map of the ground and it has a box saying click to buy GA. When I click on it nothing happens.
Has anyone been able to buy these tickets and if so how.
Author:  kingkerna [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R18: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)
kezza wrote:
I don't usually have any issues buying footy tickets so this may be a dumb question.
I am trying to buy general admission tickets for this game. The only place I can see to buy any is on the map of the ground and it has a box saying click to buy GA. When I click on it nothing happens.
Has anyone been able to buy these tickets and if so how.

@#$%&!, thought it was our home game, now I'll miss out!
Author:  kingkerna [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R18: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)
might tempt standing room and bank on dogs members not turning up
Author:  GreatEx [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R18: Western Bulldogs v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)
Braithy wrote:
might need young to play all out man defense on a tall along with weitering, while spelling kemp who's more of an intercept/ zone defender than a man-on defender.

or marchbank who does both ... but the last few times i've seen him, i'm not sure he's fast enough or strong enough for the afl anymore after his last run of injuries?

gov, weiters, tdk and williams all looked sore after the gws game. so i wouldn't be surprised if there's many ins/ outs


I was thinking about Young with respect to the GWS game. We talk about insurance policies for the ruck, but we're also clearly lacking an insurance policy for Weiters. It's such a shame Young hasn't progressed because he could have been a dual-purpose insurance policy. Home (ruck) and Contents (kpd). But I don't trust him to play either role to the required level, so if we were going down that route I'd play Pitto and get the resting ruck to play in defence if the likes of Darcy/Naughton/Lobb were monstering us.
Author:  PercyJones [ Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:48 pm ]
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I just think we are skating on thin ice when it comes to an in-game injury to any of our KP players or rucks. This is where we miss JSOS. It makes me more sympathetic to playing two rucks - lose a ruckman and we have another, lose a KP forward and we have TDK to play forward, and in a pinch, if we lose weiters, we could play TDK at CHB.
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