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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2024 8:21 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
I saw the 1st quarter but nothing else yet. I will watch the replay shortly.

9 rounds in, and if before Rd 1 someone said, we would be 6-3, I would be happy with that scoreline.

I will say it out loud.........We can make it to another Prelim and maybe the GF with our best 22 on the park and the right mindset. We have the talent, and the game plan is slowly coming into focus. Yes, it is still an obvious work in progress but isn't every other team in the same boat. We are competing consistently, for longer.

Of course, we have lapses, but we are still sneaking wins against damn good teams. Alittle bit more composure and a few less injuries and we could easily be 9-0. That might sound silly, but the margins are slow close it is not out of the realms of possibility.

We have now beaten two teams above us, including having the Demons 38pts in arears, 7 mins into the 3rd. The Cats pipped us when we were undermanned.

This week will be another great litmus test. Based on the past 9 games, I nolonger go into a game thinking we can't win. It has been a fair length of time since I felt this way.

I would rather be 6-3, being a competitive unit week in week out without our best 22 on the park, than what we have been in years gone by.

Regards Cazzesman

I agree Cazzeman
For a fun sucker like myself I was very happy about the result last night
But we must have some big wins in the last 15 games
Our % is shit and will cost us unless we improve it
Hard to win from below fourth position


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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2024 9:35 pm 
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EarlsCourt11 wrote:
Did anyone get a load of Theo Doropoulous after the game who is now apparently a footy pundit.

Was pretty staunch that Curnow's great pick up and snap in the third quarter was touched by May, despite having no conclusive evidence, he thought because of May's immediate reaction that it should have some weight on the review.

Great idea. I can't imagine a bloke like Steven May ever trying to gain an unfair advantage.

Looking forward to what Dominic Thornley or whichever random state cricketer they roll out next thinks.


Who???

Is that Max Walker’s taxi driver?


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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2024 9:46 pm 
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Same thing happening tonight at kardinia park as our match. You can't keep your foot on the throat of the top sides like Melbourne & Geelong for all 4 quarters, hardly ever happens in today's game.



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2024 9:58 pm 
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And the umpires robbed the side coming back of a goal :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2024 10:21 pm 
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I feel like nearly every game the talk is about some random umpiring decision and not the actual stuff that won the game.


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:52 am 
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missnaut wrote:
I feel like nearly every game the talk is about some random umpiring decision and not the actual stuff that won the game.


the reporting of games, is nothing short of gutter journalism. its a hot topic and that is all they want to talk about at the moment.

gone are the days when you would read an article for its content, as most appear to be written with the sole intent, to extract comments via the comment section. An over abundance of journalist, or trying to "out do" the next person, has lead to a flood of rubbish.

AFL is suffering from over exposure, with an industry, that is relatively small yet occupies so much media attention, and has so many "reporters" ...

i used to love the game, watch as much as i could, read about as much i could ... now, i barely read articles on carlton ...

id rather come here for an opinion, because this is the forum for it. not the newspapers/media


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 9:32 am 
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We are 17-5 in our last 22 games. And played some damn good teams in that time.

We are def one of the 6 teams that can win it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 10:05 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
missnaut wrote:
I feel like nearly every game the talk is about some random umpiring decision and not the actual stuff that won the game.


the reporting of games, is nothing short of gutter journalism. its a hot topic and that is all they want to talk about at the moment.

gone are the days when you would read an article for its content, as most appear to be written with the sole intent, to extract comments via the comment section. An over abundance of journalist, or trying to "out do" the next person, has lead to a flood of rubbish.

AFL is suffering from over exposure, with an industry, that is relatively small yet occupies so much media attention, and has so many "reporters" ...

i used to love the game, watch as much as i could, read about as much i could ... now, i barely read articles on carlton ...

id rather come here for an opinion, because this is the forum for it. not the newspapers/media


The social media effect.


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 10:08 am 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
We are 17-5 in our last 22 games. And played some damn good teams in that time.

We are def one of the 6 teams that can win it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 10:49 am 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
We are 17-5 in our last 22 games. And played some damn good teams in that time.

We are def one of the 6 teams that can win it.



that's an excellent insight.


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:23 pm 
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We are definitely a good team and in the mix. The game plan is solid, we have the key areas covered, just need to get everybody fit and on the park!


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 7:25 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
We are 17-5 in our last 22 games. And played some damn good teams in that time.

We are def one of the 6 teams that can win it.


:thumbsup:

We all remember what it was like when it was the opposite.

Carlton Supporter Trauma is very real. Well it is for me. Always, always hope and want the best but fear the worst.

It’s honestly hard for me to have the mindset that we are actually pretty good and right in this up to our eyeballs.

Guess it’s great to stop and remember how far we’ve come and what we’ve all endured.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:00 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
We are 17-5 in our last 22 games. And played some damn good teams in that time.

We are def one of the 6 teams that can win it.



We'll see... :grin:

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:18 am 
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First quarter we not only held them scoreless, we held them shotless. (I don't think Langdon's desperate OOF spray at the start or Fritsch's pressured dribble count.) Why is no one mentioning that? Hard to maintain perfection for the remaining three quarters.

Yes, the end was extremely frustrating (I was there) but WE WON. That was, and always has been (apart from some competition quirks that escape me and don't include tanking), the main objective.

As some have tried to say in various ways, we are sorta travelling okay, all things considered, and this, despite its tired, headless chook moments towards the end, was a grand statement after last week's justifiably annoying but close loss left many here prophesying the end of the world.

The cure for a dose of 'Cardiac Carlton' is to watch that first quarter then switch the game off. Later in the year, hopefully we can reproduce something like that quarter but chuck in another quarter or two of the same, as we get better at it, as we find our groove, so to speak. There's a little madness to this team that just needs a little harnessing. Leave the systematic bookishness to the McRaes and Longmires of this world. We might just click in a way that puts last year's heroics to shame.

Or we might not. But don't gnash all your teeth just yet.

I propose a new old slogan for this season: 'They don't know we're coming...and neither do we...but watch out when we do.' :fight:

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:29 pm 
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A late scare but we were still more than 3 goals up with less than 5 minutes to play. We just need to keep the ball in contest better. Lots of valuable lessons. Don't discount the loss of Cerra. I thought his clean ball handling really stood out when he was on.
I don't get the calls for Binns to come in at the expense of Durdin. We already have a slight body struggling with the physical nature of the game (Hollands). Binns makes Hollands look like the Incredible Hulk. He's more outside than the carpark. In fact both Hollands boys need to straight line the ball a bit better. Ollie worked hard on Thursday but he needed to be more physical on a number of occasions.

Durdins role is to win ground balls but also to pressure the opponent. Watch his game. He wins a contested ground ball, handballs to Pitto who handballs to Walsh for our first goal. He marks inside 50 and handballs to Walsh who misses a running goal from 25. He wins a contested ground ball and handballs to Hewitt who kicks our goal in the last quarter. They're 3 straight forward shots at goal he set up. Without those goals we don't win. The game isn't just about kicking goals yourself.

It's also about pressure. Melbourne's running defenders found it more difficult to impact the game. McVee and Lever were both below their career averages. As were Melbournes scores from their back half. I also recall Durdin spoiling opposition marks twice inside Melbournes forward 50 including a relatively simple Lever attempt 45m out from their goal so they're having a scoring impact at both ends. If you want to give Binns a run, it should be at the expense of Ollie. We do need a specialist wing though. Cottrell seems to have more impact as a high half forward relieving the wingers when required.

It was good to see Kennedy get a decent run in the middle. Interestingly I heard a commentator say of our 5 centre bounce goals, Cripps wasn't there for 4 of them. It shows that diversity of personnel can be valuable.

I still don't understand why we don't use Boyd more with kickouts. I recall him taking one on Thursday and he laced out a player 70m out from the Melbourne goal (Acres?). A magnificent kick. We need to get the ball in his hands more. It's not difficult. Instead of McGovern and Newman running to take the kickout, let Boyd take it. :?

Super game from Weiters. The Melbourne forwards kept trying to drag him away but he played the role beautifully. Great jobs as well by Cincotta and Boyd on dangerous forwards. The only disappointment? When Petracca was on fire, the experienced defenders let Cowan take him at one stage after a goal. You don't hang a 2nd year player out like that. Senior players take the responsibility. I have my doubts over Aaron Hamill's decisions and structures sometimes.

6 and 3 with our injury list? I'll take that.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:24 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:

I still don't understand why we don't use Boyd more with kickouts. I recall him taking one on Thursday and he laced out a player 70m out from the Melbourne goal (Acres?). A magnificent kick. We need to get the ball in his hands more. It's not difficult. Instead of McGovern and Newman running to take the kickout, let Boyd take it. :?

Super game from Weiters.


Couldn't agree more... But I would add the following....
Kick outs from behind seem to be a golden opportunity for set plays, and yet no set play seems to exist??
Am I missing something?
I would think there's more in our 'set play' book than , kick into the pocket, then long up the wing.
The 15 metre rule has hardly changed this....
Mind you all teams are just as bad at it, but I don't give a stuff about the other teams...

And YES give it to Boyd (he's our best field kick)... Or make sure he's in the chain of a SET PLAY (slaps head)

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:45 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:

I still don't understand why we don't use Boyd more with kickouts. I recall him taking one on Thursday and he laced out a player 70m out from the Melbourne goal (Acres?). A magnificent kick. We need to get the ball in his hands more. It's not difficult. Instead of McGovern and Newman running to take the kickout, let Boyd take it. :?

Super game from Weiters.


Couldn't agree more... But I would add the following....
Kick outs from behind seem to be a golden opportunity for set plays, and yet no set play seems to exist??
Am I missing something?
I would think there's more in our 'set play' book than , kick into the pocket, then long up the wing.
The 15 metre rule has hardly changed this....
Mind you all teams are just as bad at it, but I don't give a stuff about the other teams...

And YES give it to Boyd (he's our best field kick)... Or make sure he's in the chain of a SET PLAY (slaps head)

Go Blues


Yes , hopefully Boyd is running through the guts when he receives the pill and delivers it with precision to our forwards .

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:49 pm 
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Great summary BV.


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:28 pm 
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in that last quarter all we do is kick to contest not enough run and spread ,no 20 m pass to team mates just turnover it could have cost us the game


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Player (Club)
10 Christian Petracca (MELB)
7 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
6 Sam Walsh (CARL)
5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
1 Alex Neal-Bullen (MELB)
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