If you can’t run in modern footy you are a liability
Pittonet is a back up ruckman for DeKoning
Playing two of them doesn’t work long term

Other players played worse than Pittonet
Might point is to be a top 4 team you Ned as much mobility as possible right across the field
More pressure turnover whatever
That’s what the modern game is about
O’Brien isn’t mobile either but he has an enormous tank so The Crows hardly need another lumbering back up
I will say that our game last year was based largely on contested possession stoppages and clearances
and winning the close in contests
That got us to the Preliminary but as everyone knows scores from turnover is the king stat for ultimate glory
We have improved in that area this year but our one wood from last year has become 7 iron

I would love to see Binns and even Wilson given a go to see if there running power make a difference
I’ve been a fan of Carroll but he is a bit too much like our othe mids
Kennedy is a bit vanilla
E Hollands lacks real toe
Ollie isn’t doing enough

we are to slow and if we win yesterday like freo game it is only a band Aid ,need to add pace into the team i have said this before yet we recruit Hollands who HAS 1 GEAR

Pitto may have looked good in the ruck, but he only played 50% game time. You could assume that this would have had an effect on rotations and we lost 2 players to hamstring injuries. Maybe they had to carry too much load with Pitto limiting rotations and not giving a chop out down back like DeKoning does? We can't be sure. It was a bad selection. Playing 2 rucks hurt us last year, and in the one game we have tried it this year we have lost.

oh hell no ... if we'd won we'd have dodged a bullet, and maybe even tried to convince ourselves we could win again playing like that. we got dusted by a bottom 4 team, and a winless team. 3 point win, or 3 point loss that vital aspect does not change.


2 specialist rucks does not work, it's that simple. debate on who you want until you're pink inthe face, tdk or pitto. but only one can play.

look at the way the ball rebounded back past our F50 bcos we couldn't hold it in. look at how crowded the forwardline was with at times H, Charlie and tdk all there.

look at the pace on the ball through the middle bcos we had the slowest player in the AFL, who cannot make a tackle or mark the ball.

it's a disaster ...

If we're pinging 2 hammies because we're down a rotation we have serious problems.

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People can blame individuals all they like but it's our inability to defend as a team that has me worried.

Long bombs to f50 are great if you mark them, but if the ball comes to ground you may as well turn you head to the backline.
The crows simply waltzed passed our mids in transition, bouncing off our tacklers and found a free team mate i50.

Scary part is there are better teams than the Crows coming up... over to you Vossy and co

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there is talk in freo about how darcy fits into the team when he's back (which is next week, i think). freo are loving the ground work, follow up stuff and the mobility that jackson provides for their defensive gameplan.

darcy is 100 times the ruck that pitto is, but he too can't get to ground balls or apply defensive pressure, and it throws their gameplan out the window.

the game is changing

To be fair, for one of them we were down 2 rotations

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I can buy the argument about rotations given Pitto was only 50% on ground. My thought to that was, can you imagine if Pitto could go 80% game time......

The argument about ruck rotations is about one ruck, lets say, the people love is for the upcoming kid TDK, who rotates with Harry. Now tell me how that rotation, or the Pitto rotation affects Gov and saad? I'm curious how 1 + 1 = 15. Why was it a bad selection if no one knows? Is it really the reason we lost? Really? OK

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Are you claiming that OBrien is that much more mobile than Pitto? or was OBrien a liability at Marvel too?

I am not sure Williams has the tank to play higher up the ground on a Doc type of role

OK Braithy, lets wait and see when Darcy is back from injury how your theory stacks up. Talk talk talk is not facts facts facts.

So, I will remember that, Darcy comes in and the Freo game lan is out the window. Yeah right. Have a look at their forwardline. Jackson wasnt traded for the be the No 1 ruck. Like us, every team needs a mobile Fwd/Ruck. TDK could be that, but he's not holding onto marks whether he's in the ruck or forward.

If we could have Darcy as our No 1 ruck, I would take that in a heart beat with the contested mids we have.

Reminder Pittonet 4 centre clearances, equal to Walsh, and more than any other mid.....reminder isnt just the stat, but where Pitto won the ball....on the ground.

Reminder Pittonet had 6 score involvements, more than any other mid....reminder Pitto didnt play forward biut did kick a goal.

You've got something to prove Braithy and tht is like jake last week...that Pittonet is "useless".

We did not lose the game because of Pittonet, but can you give us a couple reasons, you saw, which really cost us the game.

Let me remind you we had 28 shots to their 20.
We were 3 goals, in control, with up with 6 mins to go, then rested Pitto. What happened next?

Lets get real and not focus on one player to aportion blame. Gets you nowhere doing that. Ask Voss why we lost. I'm glad he's coach, not you.
Some of your observations during match were ridiculous...and we were doing well, and no issues with ruck during early stage of the game, before injuries, and you were after Pitto when commentary on TV was full of praise of Pitto. Some like to eat their own me thinks.

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Right on

Vossy says we were down defensively, and cost us the game...and the 3 midgets on the floor didn't exactly take advantage of the crumbs.

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Maybe it was the crows who dodged a bullet and will think they are better than they are?

I read Cazzemans post about hating the 3 tall forwards going up simultaneously, but Ive watched again, it wasnt that ofetn, yet its made to sound like it happend all game. Charlies easy 3 misses, Harry's easy shot that hit post, Owies misses, cost us how many goals????? Now remind me how much did we lose by.

Pitto didnt cause the rebound from F50. Just because you think we can argue till we are pink in the face. Tell me how it failed. When the ball isnt marked by the big 3...and you will see many dropped marks nothing to do with getting in each others way, but where were the crumbers. Fk we had 3 of them: Owies, Fantasia, and Durdin. Now how is that Pitto's fault again?

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Speed kills.

We haven't got that with 2 rucks or with 1 ruck.

That's what kills.

Have you looked at Binns in todays game? No thanks. Wilson will help, but not this year, or in this half season. We need some speed. Willams and saad got it.

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lol we absolutely did lose bcos of pittonet's selection. it was arrogant to replace a runner and a ball winner with a plodding ruck who's the slowest player in the entire afl. our team defence suffered. the whole 18 guys on the park have to press and hold position and tackle when it's their turn. pittonet literally cannot do that.

we didn't rest pitto when we were down 2 rotations. when the game was there to be won, we didn't have a use for pittonet bcos we needed mobility and tackling and pressure. and pitto cannot provide that.


none of this is bcos "pitto is useless" ... it's bcos the game today only requires one ruck. you just saw what happens if you take two specialist rucks into a game - one injury and you're fk'd. and all of this is amplified even more when you have the best FF in the game and another 6'8" CHF luxury in mckay who can also ruck.

our team balance was perfect, we should have blooded a youngster for cerra in a like for like. it's just that simple.

hey this is my last post about it ... bcos you're just flogging a dead horse here with your hot takes.

we went bck to a really congested forwardline, and bombing it long into forward entries. we had no forward defensive pressure, when that has been not just our signature this season, but we are literally leading the league in points from turnover.

yday, we got no turnover. we were too slow to swarm and pressure create turnover bcos our team was too top heavy and not balanced. we were chasing the game all day long, and really it's a testament to our guts and heart that we got as close as we did.


i'd love to hang out with you and educate you on game strategy and specifics, but i fear you'd not absorb this information bcos you're like a dog wit ha bone about trying to prove to the board pittonet has worth.

he's a back up ruck should our number 1 be injured, mate. that's what he is.

I guess it was all TDK's fault we lost then!