I'm actually not minding going back in time with curlew playing backline when things are tight in the last. Doesn't look like missing it and prefer it to stinking it up essenshchizen style dinkying it around like a mofo. As they say in the classics, knights in Satan's service

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Well said.

Like last week, all we wanted was the 4 points, and the boys delievered. Winning all of the last 6 close games shows character and belief from the 23 selected.

We have 6 best players missing through injury/ suspension, and we should appreciate the challenge our developing young players are prepared to take on, and deliver.

We are winning without our best 23 on the ground, proving the depth in the list is good regardless of all the Plowman like vitriol young developing players like Young, Kemp, Carroll, Durdin and Ollie have copped from yesterday's game. Unbelievable to think some of these young men were heroes last week in our historic win at the Gabba, and Durdin came in as a sub for his first hit out of the year.

We won. Tigers lost. Thank god.

In last year's draw Lynch kicked 3 goals 3 behinds against Weitering. He outmarked Weiters several times. The year before Lynch kicked 3 goals against Weiters in a loss.

Lynch is an AA. He's kicked bags of 7 and 8 goals against Jones and Weitering when at the GCS. The umpires gifted Lynch 2 first quarter goals, and 194cm 100kg Balta going full face, whilst turning Young was able to break Young's stretched arms in an attempt to tackle and kicked a goal. Tackling against the odds happens to every player. It wasn't pathetic, it was footy. It was great play by Balta.

If someone was to tell me Lynch would kick 2 goals against Young from 2 free kicks (one against Rioli and the other against TDK and another by Balta, I would take that in a blink. I thought Young was good and glad to have him developing on our list. Yetserday's game was great for his and Kempy's development. Carroll might not have a right foot, but he's showing signs he could be something. They all did OK to help us win.

We learn and we move forward.

I have to disagree with you there - rule of thumb as a defender is that if you go the speccie, you'd better @#$%&! take it. Because if you miss, you're taking yourself out of the play, and probably some of your teammates too. If you can't mark, go the punch. That's why a lot of experienced defenders go the punch even when it seems they could easily have marked, it's the smart play. I can't be having it that Gov is equally to blame, you're equating not having the reflexes of a cat with making low-percentage decisions. But hey, at least it's not as bad as Surrey singling Gov out as one of the two biggest blunderers on the night when he had 26 possies at 92% while taking on the high-risk high-rewards kicks through the corridor.

Richmond won the clearances contested possession and turn over
We won but we’re very lucky
As usual umpiring favored the Tiggies according to some
That’s bullshit
In fact Carlton had 7 more free kicks
The 50 DeKoning got was debatable

The bottom line is all supporters should realise deep down that no game is a gimmy
They can bang on about how they are going to smash the opposition
But it’s manufactured blind faith

We still must improve our ability to cause turnovers and score from them
We rely too much on winning stoppages and contested possession
Richmond lacked the polish of the better teams but were a bit unlucky on Thursday night

“Everyone wants blues to win including umpires”.

But both sides benefited from questionable umpiring calls. A pair of soft free kicks gifted Richmond spearhead Tom Lynch two straightforward goals to help the Tigers stay in touch with Carlton early.

Lynch was awarded a free kick when De Koning was judged to have pushed him in the back in a ruck contest.

“That Lynch TDK free kick might be the worst call of all time.”

Richmond won the clearances contested possession and turn over
We won but we’re very lucky
As usual umpiring favored the Tiggies according to some
That’s bullshit
In fact Carlton had 7 more free kicks
The 50 DeKoning got was debatable

The bottom line is all supporters should realise deep down that no game is a gimmy
They can bang on about how they are going to smash the opposition
But it’s manufactured blind faith

We still must improve our ability to cause turnovers and score from them
We rely too much on winning stoppages and contested possession
Richmond lacked the polish of the better teams but were a bit unlucky on Thursday night

Fair enough, I agree he should have punched.

Just wondering if he had punched while standing on the Richmond’s players shoulders if the umpire would have pinged him for making an “unrealistic attempt to mark”?

Richmond won the clearances contested possession and turn over
We won but we’re very lucky
As usual umpiring favored the Tiggies according to some
That’s bullshit
In fact Carlton had 7 more free kicks
The 50 DeKoning got was debatable

The bottom line is all supporters should realise deep down that no game is a gimmy
They can bang on about how they are going to smash the opposition
But it’s manufactured blind faith

We still must improve our ability to cause turnovers and score from them
We rely too much on winning stoppages and contested possession
Richmond lacked the polish of the better teams but were a bit unlucky on Thursday night

Richmond got 4 of their first 5 goals directly from iffy umpiring.

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lucky ...

We earned most of our frees through tackling, a lot of them were holding the ball frees.

We weren't gifted bullshit like they were early and if you want to mention TDKs 50 as being iffy, they also missed one that Kemp should have got for Rioli smothering it from remaining inside the protected zone after the mark.... so it evens out.

I'd like them to stop publishing the free kick count because it is wildly misleading.

Also a significant portion of our score was from turnover as opposed to stoppage/clearance so we are developing this area.

We supposedly are a contested/stoppage team yet were beaten soundly in this area and we won the game.

We are clearly developing our turnover game, we clearly know how to win close games now, we are 2-0 coming off a prelim last year.

I don't understand why anyone would be unhappy

They just believe in their game plan and roles so much more this year. So organised in the last 5 mins. Love it. Feeling good about this year.

This is true. I surprised myself with how relaxed I was in those closing minutes. It could have been the red wine coursing through my veins. It could have been because being 1-1 at the bye was a perfectly satisfactory outcome given our opening fixture. But mainly because I was aware of our recent winning margins and knew they were not due to luck.

Not unhappy with the win, but glad that game's over. It was just a frustrating match.

Get a bit of momentum & some players back & we really should win our next 3

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Happy to be 2 zip
What shits me is the assumption by some that we are dead set certainties in some game
The game against North ain’t a dead set certainty

An umpire bashing is in most cases is a deflection on teams performance
It’s such an even competition

AND we are missing some pretty bloody handy players at the moment.