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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:50 pm 
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Him too….

hope the Dogs get rid of him,…then the dirty filthy
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that wold be terrific…!


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he’s a recidivist…no doubt….!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Cottrell re-signed for 3 years.


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Cottrell re-signed for 3 years.


Nick Austin sais

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We continue to be impressed by his work ethic, the role he plays in the side is valued highly and we know whatever challenge we throw at Matthew, he just takes it in his stride and does whatever he can to help his teammates.


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Making his mark as a high half-forward who covers all areas of the ground, his work rate has seen him become admired


Whilst he isn't getting huge possession numbers he's always clocking 15km + per game, blocking lanes, adding numbers in support, obviously playing an important role. And he's kicked a goal in both games this year.

He's a beauty. One of the many oxygen brothers we have in the best 23, giving us work horses who keep running in the last quarter. These players are gold whilst rotations are reduced.

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bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Cottrell re-signed for 3 years.


Nick Austin sais

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We continue to be impressed by his work ethic, the role he plays in the side is valued highly and we know whatever challenge we throw at Matthew, he just takes it in his stride and does whatever he can to help his teammates.


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Making his mark as a high half-forward who covers all areas of the ground, his work rate has seen him become admired


Whilst he isn't getting huge possession numbers he's always clocking 15km + per game, blocking lanes, adding numbers in support, obviously playing an important role. And he's kicked a goal in both games this year.

He's a beauty. One of the many oxygen brothers we have in the best 23, giving us work horses who keep running in the last quarter. These players are gold whilst rotations are reduced.


Well put " B " . Its what he is doing when he hasn't got the ball .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Cottrell re-signed for 3 years.


Nick Austin sais

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We continue to be impressed by his work ethic, the role he plays in the side is valued highly and we know whatever challenge we throw at Matthew, he just takes it in his stride and does whatever he can to help his teammates.


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Making his mark as a high half-forward who covers all areas of the ground, his work rate has seen him become admired


Whilst he isn't getting huge possession numbers he's always clocking 15km + per game, blocking lanes, adding numbers in support, obviously playing an important role. And he's kicked a goal in both games this year.

He's a beauty. One of the many oxygen brothers we have in the best 23, giving us work horses who keep running in the last quarter. These players are gold whilst rotations are reduced.


I agree, and I think that the high number of endurance beasts we have in the team give us a real advantage over most teams. It is one of the reasons I think we have to try and go with TDK as number 1 ruck and backup from players who have another primary function rather than running a 2 ruck set-up.
Well put " B " . Its what he is doing when he hasn't got the ball .


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Hawyard ? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Great news.

Looks like we are looking for a fill in for Silvagni in the next MSD.

SOS is a Forward-Ruck? Utility? Wat we do know is he's been a link player in the forward line, a quality we have been missing from a 3rd tall, and he also rucks, giving No 1 ruck, presently TDK, a chop out, instead of calling for Harry. Crippa or Kennedy to relieve a fatiguing TDK.

This is great news, because if its not to be a Pitto - TDK combo, we may still have a legit 2 ruck combo, if we are lucky.
Marlion Pickett has been the biggest name to come from the MSD, back in 2019, and went on to become a premiership player. Omen for us. John Noble to Pies and Jai Newconmbe to the Hawks are others of note to be recruited from the MSD.

Other players recruited from MSD include Brad Hardie :eek: , Daryn Cresswell, Dale Kickett...but they were yesteryear.

All eyes will be on the State Leagues for a diamond(s) in the rough over the next 7 weeks/ rounds. MSD will be held on May 24.

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Carlton Head of Football Brad Lloyd has confirmed that his club will be active in the upcoming mid-season draft.

The Blues have two list spots available to utilise, given the season-ending injuries suffered by Sam Docherty and Jack Silvagni.

While they have constructed a deep list, they would benefit from targeting a replacement for Silvagni on their list, while their mid-forward stocks have also been hit hard so far this season.

Carlton is currently without Jesse Motlop (hamstring), Jack Martin (hamstring), David Cuningham (calf) and Lachie Fogarty (wrist), to go with Silvagni (knee) and Docherty (knee), while Elijah Hollands (adductor) was subbed out last weekend.

Lloyd said list manager Nick Austin and his team will be getting to work and keeping a close eye on the state leagues.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/09/blues-set-to-be-active-in-upcoming-mid-season-afl-draft/

7 out injured this round ... ouch.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Carlton, Melbourne and the two South Australian clubs Adelaide and Port Adelaide are reportedly attempting to lure Sydney forward Will Hayward at the end of the season.

The 25-year-old goal kicker is a restricted free agent and Tom Morris reports that there is a lot of interest in acquiring his services.

“Free agent Will Hayward is hot property right now. Sydney has offered the 25-year-old a deal, but he has sparked interest from rivals including two big Victorian clubs who are both in the premiership window,” Morris told 9News.

“Adelaide and Port are both keen on the South Australian, we knew that, but tonight I can confirm Carlton and Melbourne are firmly in the hunt for Hayward as a free agent at the end of the year and both would offer long-term deals.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/09/report-blues-and-dees-chasing-free-agent-swans-forward/

No doubt Nick Austin is not content with our list and looking to further improve it in 2024.

With Martin's contract ending, along with Marchbank, Fogarty, Owies, Cuningham and Sam Durdin and Mirkov contracts. Then there's Cottrell and Boyd who have to be moved from rooike to Main list if they are to be kept.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Its going to be really interesting if Nick Austin enters this years Draft with 1st round draft pick in hand, and Camporeale twins are taken with our 2nd and 4th rounders.

That's 3 spots that need to be vacated to get them in, then there's 2 more delistings/ demotions to be made for last year rookies Cottrell and Owies.

Not sure how that 3 year contract to Cottrell works. Has he already been promoted to main list in the past? If so, I missed it.

Crusader would know.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:19 am 
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In the Herald sun today there's a fair bit reported on Free Agents and next round of contracts

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Weitering, 26, has a deal that runs through to the end of 2025, and while discussions haven’t kicked off yet, it is understood the Blues and the star defender’s management are open to getting it done well ahead of time.

The Blues already have key forwards Charlie Curnow (2029) and Harry McKay (2030), skipper Patrick Cripps (2027) and midfielder Sam Walsh (2026) locked away, with Weitering set to push himself into $1m-plus bracket, given his form and his importance in defence.

All of those five players would be in the top bracket of AFL salaries going forward, which can sometimes skew a club’s salary into a lopsided danger zone.


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But Carlton’s list management team, headed by Nick Austin, have balanced the top end deals with some ‘Bargain Basement Blues’ which haven’t cost much in terms of acquisition or salaries.

Almost half of the club’s 23 in last week’s thrilling win over Fremantle – Nic Newman, Blake Acres, Matt Cottrell, Elijah Hollands, Lachie Fogarty, George Hewett, Jordan Boyd, Jack Carroll, Matt Owies and Orazio Fantasia – didn’t cost the Blues a great deal in terms of bringing them through the door.


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Nic Newman – future fourth round pick in 2018 SOS
Blake Acres – future third round pick in 2022
Matt Cottrell – SSP selection in 2019 SOS
Elijah Hollands – future third-round pick and pick 26 for Hollands, pick 28 and future fourth round pick
Lachie Fogarty – pick 30 and 51 for 38 and Fogarty
George Hewett – free agent 2021
Jordan Boyd – 2021 mid-season draft
Jack Carroll – pick 41 in 2020 draft
Matt Owies – category B rookie in 2018
Orazio Fantasia – free agent in 2024

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Hayward is a very good player, great mark, reliable shot for goal, seems to get involved up the ground. If we can't get Martin on the park regularly then he'd be an ideal replacement with more years left in him.


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Hayward is a very good player, great mark, reliable shot for goal, seems to get involved up the ground. If we can't get Martin on the park regularly then he'd be an ideal replacement with more years left in him.


Would love this.

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bluebo baggers wrote:
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Hayward is a very good player, great mark, reliable shot for goal, seems to get involved up the ground. If we can't get Martin on the park regularly then he'd be an ideal replacement with more years left in him.


Would love this.

Yeah, same.

Mind you, I will eat a yard of shite if Moir doesn’t get himself to at least that level.

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Hayward is a very good player, great mark, reliable shot for goal, seems to get involved up the ground. If we can't get Martin on the park regularly then he'd be an ideal replacement with more years left in him.


Agree

Great shot at goal and quick.

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bondiblue wrote:
Its going to be really interesting if Nick Austin enters this years Draft with 1st round draft pick in hand, and Camporeale twins are taken with our 2nd and 4th rounders.

That's 3 spots that need to be vacated to get them in, then there's 2 more delistings/ demotions to be made for last year rookies Cottrell and Owies.

Not sure how that 3 year contract to Cottrell works. Has he already been promoted to main list in the past? If so, I missed it.

Crusader would know.

Yeah, Cottrell was moved to the main list in the preseason. Owies the year before.

To the best of my knowledge, the rookie list is:

Mirkov (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
Boyd (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
S.Durdin (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
Cincotta (Cat A, SSP) - 2nd year
O’Keeffe (Cat A, SSP) - 2nd year
M.Carroll (Cat A, RD) - 1st year

Akuei (Cat B, NGA) - Final year
Monahan (Cat B, Int.) - 1st year

We’ve got a commitment to add Duffy for 2025, which would likely see Akuei off.

Unlikely that Boyd survives a full ND to be re-rookied as Cottrell was, so we would need to elevate him at the end of the season.

Mirkov can go back to teaching, knowing that he gave it a good shot.

Durdin, just my humble, has options. If he can hold together, there’s a spot for him. Otherwise, he’s got his CFMEU card.

All in all, I have 2025 as:

Cat A
1. Cincotta - 3rd & final year before elevation or re-draft
2. O’Keeffe - 3rd & final year
3. M.Carroll - 2nd year
4. Vacant
5. Vacant
6. Vacant

Cat B
1. Monahan - 2nd year
2. Duffy - 1st year

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Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Its going to be really interesting if Nick Austin enters this years Draft with 1st round draft pick in hand, and Camporeale twins are taken with our 2nd and 4th rounders.

That's 3 spots that need to be vacated to get them in, then there's 2 more delistings/ demotions to be made for last year rookies Cottrell and Owies.

Not sure how that 3 year contract to Cottrell works. Has he already been promoted to main list in the past? If so, I missed it.

Crusader would know.

Yeah, Cottrell was moved to the main list in the preseason. Owies the year before.

To the best of my knowledge, the rookie list is:

Mirkov (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
Boyd (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
S.Durdin (Cat A, MSD) - Final year
Cincotta (Cat A, SSP) - 2nd year
O’Keeffe (Cat A, SSP) - 2nd year
M.Carroll (Cat A, RD) - 1st year

Akuei (Cat B, NGA) - Final year
Monahan (Cat B, Int.) - 1st year

We’ve got a commitment to add Duffy for 2025, which would likely see Akuei off.

Unlikely that Boyd survives a full ND to be re-rookied as Cottrell was, so we would need to elevate him at the end of the season.

Mirkov can go back to teaching, knowing that he gave it a good shot.

Durdin, just my humble, has options. If he can hold together, there’s a spot for him. Otherwise, he’s got his CFMEU card.

All in all, I have 2025 as:

Cat A
1. Cincotta - 3rd & final year before elevation or re-draft
2. O’Keeffe - 3rd & final year
3. M.Carroll - 2nd year
4. Vacant
5. Vacant
6. Vacant

Cat B
1. Monahan - 2nd year
2. Duffy - 1st year


Thanks Cru

I thought Cottrell was promoted last year too, but someone mentioned to me that he was still a rookie, in his last year.

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Brad Lloyd has stated we are going to be active in the forth coming mid-season draft due to the absence of Jack Silvagni and Sam Docherty . Gonna be interesting . Will they grab a ready to go type or will they go for a long term project type .

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I think the ‘immediate’ fix for the problem we have when Harry goes into the ruck will be Martin or Moir.

The other problem we have, which exacerbates the first, is that the small forwards are spending too much time on the pine. One of them has got to clench up & play 90-95% game time to bring some continuity to the set up. Direct a bit of space when Charlie is the lone tall and maybe turn those 3 & 4 v 1s into 1 & 2 v 1s… or, god forbid, open up some leading lanes.

For a side that has the last three Coleman Medals running out each week, we are drastically short of scoring IP, but I don’t know there’s a ready-made solution for that in the lower leagues.

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Crusader wrote:
I think the ‘immediate’ fix for the problem we have when Harry goes into the ruck will be Martin or Moir.

The other problem we have, which exacerbates the first, is that the small forwards are spending too much time on the pine. One of them has got to clench up & play 90-95% game time to bring some continuity to the set up. Direct a bit of space when Charlie is the lone tall and maybe turn those 3 & 4 v 1s into 1 & 2 v 1s… or, god forbid, open up some leading lanes.

For a side that has the last three Coleman Medals running out each week, we are drastically short of scoring IP, but I don’t know there’s a ready-made solution for that in the lower leagues.


Yes Cruz hence my question . If there are no ready to go in the lower comps are there any kids out there overlooked in the draft who would be suitable long term projects . Once upon a time "Ol mate Cazz used to be all over this sort of stuff .

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