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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:56 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Keogh's retirement hobbies are now listed as - 'Cutting through the BS, because it needs to be done.'

He enjoys long walks on the beach and........

Going to Funerals and Bagging out the Deceased as the coffin is lowered.
Going to Weddings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why Marriage is 'Bad for your Health and will end in Divorce.'
Going to Christenings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why the child will eventually let the family down.

After many years of influencing the minds of children, he says it is the least he can do for society. :eek: :eek:

Is it a Bird? Is it a Plane? No, it is 'NO BS MAN'.

Carry on 'Mr Chuckles.' :roll:

Regards Cazzesman


Geez Cazz , you aint what i would call a barrel of laughs , but that is very very funny 'ol mate .

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:59 pm 
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Nicely done Danny and thank you.


Keogh, Punctuation !! Please.

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:00 pm 
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When you put it that way, cazz, keogh sounds like a bit of a ledge


Yes he is. He truly is. They broke the mould thereafter :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:00 pm 
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keogh wrote:
london blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!"
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Very true Dannyboy but if posters went back over all the match day threads when Plowman played most of the comments would be of a negative nature
So he played AFL
What about someone who does a brilliant sculpture then dies an unexpected death
Probably sell for millions more which is par for the course but in a strange way bizarre
Jimi Hendrix said it best
Once your dead you really have made it
I wonder if Hendrix lived would he feel the same way
There is a very good chance you get less sentimental as you get older

And that’s my point.

So respect then Keogh
If Jimi Hendrix got it right how can any of us, including your good self sit way up high and need to point out someone’s flaws on retirement. Your good self, like me haven’t made it yet

When I was 25 I ran a marathon under 3 hours
Always wanted to do it and a did it
Didn’t expect or want one Pat on the back
Don’t think I’m anything special
The reality of Plowman’s footy career are there to see
The good and the bad
I have pointed both out
If you think it’s wrong so say something negative about him at this time that’s your view


It is my view.

And nor would I question your Marathon time as anything but - “good on you it’s a great effort….respect” Nothing more to be said in the moment.

Just like - good on ya Plow for playing 145 games.


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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:00 pm 
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keogh wrote:
london blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!"
"

Very true Dannyboy but if posters went back over all the match day threads when Plowman played most of the comments would be of a negative nature
So he played AFL
What about someone who does a brilliant sculpture then dies an unexpected death
Probably sell for millions more which is par for the course but in a strange way bizarre
Jimi Hendrix said it best
Once your dead you really have made it
I wonder if Hendrix lived would he feel the same way
There is a very good chance you get less sentimental as you get older

And that’s my point.

So respect then Keogh
If Jimi Hendrix got it right how can any of us, including your good self sit way up high and need to point out someone’s flaws on retirement. Your good self, like me haven’t made it yet

When I was 25 I ran a marathon under 3 hours
Always wanted to do it and a did it
Didn’t expect or want one Pat on the back
Don’t think I’m anything special
The reality of Plowman’s footy career are there to see
The good and the bad
I have pointed both out
If you think it’s wrong so say something negative about him at this time that’s your view


It is my view.

And nor would I question your Marathon time as anything but - “good on you it’s a great effort….respect” Nothing more to be said in the moment.

Just like - good on ya Plow for playing 145 games.


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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:02 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Keogh's retirement hobbies are now listed as - 'Cutting through the BS, because it needs to be done.'

He enjoys long walks on the beach and........

Going to Funerals and Bagging out the Deceased as the coffin is lowered.
Going to Weddings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why Marriage is 'Bad for your Health and will end in Divorce.'
Going to Christenings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why the child will eventually let the family down.

After many years of influencing the minds of children, he says it is the least he can do for society. :eek: :eek:

Is it a Bird? Is it a Plane? No, it is 'NO BS MAN'.

Carry on 'Mr Chuckles.' :roll:

Regards Cazzesman


Geez Cazz , you aint what i would call a barrel of laughs , but that is very very funny 'ol mate .


:lol: :thanks: I'm often funny in my own lunch box. :donk:

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:05 pm 
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london blue wrote:
It is my view.

And nor would I question your Marathon time as anything but - “good on you it’s a great effort….respect” Nothing more to be said in the moment.

Just like - good on ya Plow for playing 145 games.


LB you should have added a 'Keogh twist' at the end.

"If only you trained harder, you would have gotten an even better time." :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:07 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
london blue wrote:
It is my view.

And nor would I question your Marathon time as anything but - “good on you it’s a great effort….respect” Nothing more to be said in the moment.

Just like - good on ya Plow for playing 145 games.


LB you should have added a 'Keogh twist' at the end.

"If only you trained harder, you would have gotten an even better time." :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:57 pm 
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So are we all happy Plowman isn’t on the list anymore?


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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:16 pm 
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C h turds in 2024 for the alternate view

Without Plowman


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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:22 pm 
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keogh wrote:
So are we all happy Plowman isn’t on the list anymore?


What part of the discussion points don’t you get.

Get off the Cones and wake up to yourself.

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 Post subject: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:37 am 
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Serious question, how long after having kids do you wait before getting back on the cones?

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 Post subject: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:29 am 
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keogh wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
keogh wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
keogh wrote:

I have a tear in my eye
By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever
But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble
Loyalty is only reciprocated so far
Diabolical decision maker
Good VFL player at best
Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary
But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend.


Keogh what the heck goes on in your brain. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Danny has posted something he felt the need to do. TC is an opinion forum and that was Danny's heartfelt Opinion.

I get that you or anyone is entitled to an opinion, but in this instance why would you need to post something. Just let it go. What did you hope to achieve?

But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble :eek: :eek:

What a sad thing to say, after the bloke announces his retirement. He gave his all without complaint or a backwards step.

How would your folks feel, if on the day you retired from teaching, a parent who had never met you said.

"If someone like Keogh was allowed to teach here, best you find another school to send your child."

Get real fella.

Regards Cazzesman

You select what I write
Read everything I wrote
Plowman by all accounts is a good bloke
He played at the highest level
Good on him
He had a go
Good on him
But he was an average footballer not good enough for AFL
To play 145 games shows how bad we were
And it’s testimony to some of the most bizarre trades and picks from SOS
A list manager who picked Plowman twice
Going to write about Lochie O’Brien
A footballer you bagged often who got the chop today
I don’t get too choked up on things like this these days Cazzeman
When your times up it’s up
It’s a part of life


Keogh, your post is full of contradictions, that’s what you’re being called out on.

If you insist on saying things like “he was not good enough for AFL”, alongside “he played 145 games….at the highest level”, you just don’t make any sense.

He played 145 games because we were so bad
Due to SOSs recruiting
We also had virtually no lockdown third defender
Plowman was it
The trade was interesting
Phillips Lamb Plowman and Sumner and pick 8 which became Harry McKay for picks
How did the three other GWS boys go with us
As soon as the team improved Plowman became a fringe player

But he had a crack and let’s hope he produces a couple of good little Plowmans who we can get as Father/Son recruits.
Unlike Brad Fisher


He played 145 games as an AFL footballer, so he was obviously good enough to be an AFL footballer. Your statements are clearly contradictory.


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 Post subject: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:32 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
london blue wrote:
It is my view.

And nor would I question your Marathon time as anything but - “good on you it’s a great effort….respect” Nothing more to be said in the moment.

Just like - good on ya Plow for playing 145 games.


LB you should have added a 'Keogh twist' at the end.

"If only you trained harder, you would have gotten an even better time." :lol: :lol:

Regards Cazzesman


And “not a marathon runner”.


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 Post subject: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:34 am 
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BamBam7 wrote:
Serious question, how long after having kids do you wait before getting back on the cones?

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Asking for a mate...


Depends if you’re chest feeding or not…..


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 Post subject: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:07 am 
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keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
So the farmer has hung up his boots and I just wanted to say thanks. It was a tough field that you worked on, plenty of harsh conditions and for many years one which struggled to bear any fruit but you, like all farmers, wiped your brow, shrugged your shoulders and got back to work, day after day, year after year, playing on opponents too tall, too small, too fast...yet you just accepted the assignment, wiped old mud off your boots and went again and again.

It must be an easy gig when the conditions are right, surrounded by players, coaches and supporters on the wave of winning games, sadly that was not your lot, you worked through the lean years, the years of drought when wins were as hard to come by as water in the desert...many could have been broken by the environment, you just kept on working, supporting others, taking up the challenges working over summer for the winter, through the winter for the next year and so on.

From what I've heard you are a top bloke, supportive, salt of the earth type, so thank you Lachie, thank you for the games, for wearing the jumper, for working through the lean years to help us get to this point where we think now we may have a harvest.

All of us want to wear this famous old jumper - you did!
All of us dreamt of playing this game at the highest level - you did!
You took the swirling mists of childhood ambition and carved out a career, you played this game, took the knocks, took the highs and lows, beat opponents, was beaten by opponents, won some, lost many and kept, working, supporting, playing.

Thank you Lachie, thank you for the effort, the games played, the training sessions endured, the boos, everything. I know it was never about the money, it as about honouring that little boy who held the oval ball, inhaled the leather and dreamt such a dream that life found its path and set you on your way.
Thank you for the games, the smiles, the bumps, the aches and pains, the work; the work that you and so many players have put in that have slowly, like the barren fields turned fertile, helped turn this club around.

When Carlton players hold that cup aloft many will have forgotten your role in the tough years preparing for the feast, but know this Lachie, all Carlton players, all of them, have some sort of connection to those cups.

Thanks you and enjoy putting your feet up.


I have a tear in my eye
By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever
But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble
Loyalty is only reciprocated so far
Diabolical decision maker
Good VFL player at best
Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary
But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend.


what a mean spirited post.


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 Post subject: Re: Tilling the field
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:17 pm 
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What a peculiar thread…!


kindest regards tommi







hey Bam…just get on man…!

whilst we’re on it…haven’t used the appendage for
over 20 years now…breathe well…!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:22 pm 
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keogh wrote:
So are we all happy Plowman isn’t on the list anymore?
I am.
But I respect that he had an AFL career, as flawed as he was.

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Lachie Plowman reminded me a bit of a Carlton player from the 60s and 70s, Neil Chandler.
Chans was never a champion by any definition, but he had the advantage of being a member
of a great side. Unlike Lachie Plowman. But like Plowman, he applied himself to whatever task he was allocated.
When we played Hawthorn for example, Ron Barassi had Neil Chandler ''standing in the hole'' between
CHB and Full Back. Couldn't have been easy standing there, waiting for the footy knowing Peter Hudson
and Wes Lofts were thundering in behind you. But he always stood his ground.
He took no shit from anybody, one of my fav memories of him was ragdolling Sheedy in the '72 GF.

Lachie Plowman played 145 games for Carlton. A foot soldier.
Neil Chandler played about half that, also a foot soldier. But his CV also reads Triple Premiership Player.

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sinbagger wrote:
BamBam7 wrote:
Serious question, how long after having kids do you wait before getting back on the cones?

...

Asking for a mate...


Depends if you’re chest feeding or not…..
My boobs are probably big enough to, but I leave that to the Mrs.
tommi wrote:
What a peculiar thread…!


kindest regards tommi







hey Bam…just get on man…!

whilst we’re on it…haven’t used the appendage for
over 20 years now…breathe well…!
I gave up ciggies a few years ago, best thing I ever did for my health.


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